Page 1 of 8 123 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 112

Thread: 100% during jigeiko?

  1. #1
    \o/ \o/ \o/
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    New York, NY
    Posts
    1,123
    Country: United_States

    100% during jigeiko?

    The question of going 100% against smaller and lighter opponents has come up plenty of times before, but now maybe I can ask more directly:

    Do women find it better when the degree of physicality is more evenly matched, or is it better when a physically large and powerful opponent lets loose?
    Arthur Hyun (玄)

  2. #2
    Depends on what you mean by "better". It is better in most regards because most of my opponents actually are larger and more powerful, so I have to learn how to deal with it. On the other hand, practising with people my own size can bring out some aspects that I can use against the predominantly larger opponents.
    "The stillness within stillness is not the true stillness (as in meditation), the true stillness is within motion." Lao-Tsu

  3. #3
    Drillbit Ali Alison2805's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    back in the city :]
    Posts
    1,661
    Country: Australia
    this is an interesting question. I have more fun when doing jigeiko against bigger stronger people, but I can get frustrated when I feel they are pounding me into the floor and Im not sure what to do (like someone standing there hitting you over and over, no zanshin). At the moment I feel more confident against someone my size, or my training level. No surprises there.

    BUT it is 10 times more satisfying to beat someone bigger than me, and I am looking forward to the day when I can hold my own against all the guys.

  4. #4
    Needs more chocolate Solinde's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    Linköping, Sweden
    Posts
    350
    Country: Sweden
    I don't like when people go easy on me just because I'm small.
    Ha! Four of you and you still can't take me....Pose.......Ugh, blood and brains, don't want to mess up my saya....Flick....okay, it's clean now.....Noto.......End! //Decado

  5. #5
    Drillbit Ali Alison2805's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    back in the city :]
    Posts
    1,661
    Country: Australia
    me too, Id prefer to be frustrated that Im being beaten all the time than to feel that someone is going easy on me. I dont get frustrated very often though

  6. #6
    Cute, small and furry! Lone Kitten's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Nottingham, UK
    Posts
    334
    Country: United Kingdom
    Quote Originally Posted by Solinde
    I don't like when people go easy on me just because I'm small.
    same here! I even tell people not to go easy on me... i can give just as good as i get!
    "dont try to reason with me when i'm wound up, my husband just tried and now has my empty beer bottle where the sun dont shine (*joking! )" - Kitten after 10 hour, 400 mile round trip from Nottingham to East Sussex

  7. #7
    sakeholic & shiaiholic Paburo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Location
    Madrid
    Posts
    1,607
    Country: Spain
    this is a very good question hyuna. there are about 10 girls in my dojo. i won't say names cause one or two might be reading this and it would be disrespectful lol.

    i'm around 6'. not huge strong but rather lean so/and i try to base my kendo on speed and reflexes. not heavy "unblockable" blows, or pushing, or strong stunning tai-atari, etc. against any other boy, it's usually me who receives all the pushing and crazy tai-atari.

    now having said this, from all of them 10 girls in my dojo, only one can handle me going 100% physical (as i would with another boy, no more and no less)... shes shorter but lean and strong, and has a scary fighting spirit and kiai.

    the rest would rather give it up to a bigger boy-opponent. OR complain about me using brutish force??? especially a couple of them. i have to reaaally do baby kendo with those cause otherwise they'd start yelling at me for using such RUDE kendo, lol. has a girl yelled at you in the middle of jigeiko?

    this lead me to think it was natural most girls would rather fight opponents 'their size', BUT i'm amazed at the fact that so far so good girls around here seem to have that "gimme your 100% boy/bitch, i can handle it" attitude. gotta love a girl with that kinda attitude <3<3<3
    Last edited by Paburo; 18th June 2006 at 01:06 AM.
    Kenshi-Katagi [剣士気質]
    http://kenshi-katagi.blogspot.com/

  8. #8
    you gonna whistle dixie? Ignatz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Marshalls Creek, Pa.
    Posts
    3,861
    Country: United_States
    Quote Originally Posted by Paburo
    . . .now having said this, from all of them 10 girls in my dojo, only one can handle me going 100% physical (as i would with another boy, no more and no less)... . . .
    Get yourself a ticket to New York, we have 10 girls at Kenshin-kai that would have you crawling around crying for your mommy.
    "Take your dying with some seriousness, however. Laughing on the way to your execution is not generally understood by less advanced life forms, and they'll call you crazy."
    Messiah's Handbook


    When did I realize I was God? Well, I was praying and I suddenly realized I was talking to myself.
    Jack Gurney - "The Ruling Class"

    I want to be what I was when I wanted to be what I am now
    Grafitti, 1980

  9. #9
    VooDoo Hentai KhawMengLee's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2002
    Location
    Koala Loompour
    Posts
    3,067
    Country: Malaysia
    Quote Originally Posted by Ignatz
    Get yourself a ticket to New York, we have 10 girls at Kenshin-kai that would have you crawling around crying for your mommy.
    Some people pay good money for that kind of special treatment.
    SHUGYOSHA

    My name is Pullo...Titus Pullo.


    ALL YOUR IPPON ARE BELONG TO US!!!


    Proud "extra hentai" member of the Seven Smutty Samurai.

    "See my kote! See my kote! (kicks opponent in the crotch) Well ya should have been watching my foot!"
    Meng just before being given hansoku.

    http://mengkhaw.blogs.friendster.com/angry_dawg/

  10. #10
    you gonna whistle dixie? Ignatz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Marshalls Creek, Pa.
    Posts
    3,861
    Country: United_States
    I heard that you wrote Ann Coulter a letter too, something about baking like a dog.
    "Take your dying with some seriousness, however. Laughing on the way to your execution is not generally understood by less advanced life forms, and they'll call you crazy."
    Messiah's Handbook


    When did I realize I was God? Well, I was praying and I suddenly realized I was talking to myself.
    Jack Gurney - "The Ruling Class"

    I want to be what I was when I wanted to be what I am now
    Grafitti, 1980

  11. #11
    VooDoo Hentai KhawMengLee's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2002
    Location
    Koala Loompour
    Posts
    3,067
    Country: Malaysia
    Quote Originally Posted by Ignatz
    I heard that you wrote Ann Coulter a letter too, something about baking like a dog.
    Ahhh...Ann Coulter...sweet sweet Annie...what did she say about Canada the other day?

    "[Canadians] better hope the United States does not roll over one night and crush them. They are lucky we allow them to exist on the same continent." - Hannity & Colmes, November 30, 2004

    Ann Coulter, ladies and gentlegerms, a class act.
    SHUGYOSHA

    My name is Pullo...Titus Pullo.


    ALL YOUR IPPON ARE BELONG TO US!!!


    Proud "extra hentai" member of the Seven Smutty Samurai.

    "See my kote! See my kote! (kicks opponent in the crotch) Well ya should have been watching my foot!"
    Meng just before being given hansoku.

    http://mengkhaw.blogs.friendster.com/angry_dawg/

  12. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by Lone Kitten
    same here! I even tell people not to go easy on me... i can give just as good as i get!
    IMHO it doesn't help to tell. You have to crank it up to a level where they have to take you seriously or they'll end up looking silly.
    "The stillness within stillness is not the true stillness (as in meditation), the true stillness is within motion." Lao-Tsu

  13. #13
    sakeholic & shiaiholic Paburo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Location
    Madrid
    Posts
    1,607
    Country: Spain
    Quote Originally Posted by Ignatz
    Get yourself a ticket to New York, we have 10 girls at Kenshin-kai that would have you crawling around crying for your mommy.
    i'd love to... but i got my vacations pretty much planned by now (which include plenty kendo events btw ) BUT, i got a dojo mate residing in NYC... if you PM the address and contact info i will be more than delighted to forward it to him for a visit

    best regards to kenshinkai girls <3
    Kenshi-Katagi [剣士気質]
    http://kenshi-katagi.blogspot.com/

  14. #14
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Posts
    23
    Country: United_States
    No punches pulled. Period, end of list. The women at my dojo are very petite and very skilled. I use my advantages in height, body mass and reach to their utmost and even then it's a tough fight. But note I said "use", not "abuse". It always irritates me to see guys get even more physical simply because of the size differential. How much skill does it take to body-check someone 5' and 90lbs when the person doing the checking is 6' 170lbs? Congrats, you understand simple physics. Now try actually doing kendo.
    Welcome to Michigan, America's first line of defense...against the Canadians.

  15. #15
    Ah-Wooooh! ne0r's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Anywhere near a dojo.
    Posts
    792
    Country: Germany
    Hmm.. OK, I actually have no jigeiko experience and I am quite new to kendo, but I'd like to tell my humble opinion...

    I think that every player has his avantages. If he doesn't use them and he doesn't do jigeiko in which he really can practise how to use his advantages and improve his technique, etc. it rather won't be good jigeiko. Furthermore I heard/read many times that the higher the difference between skill the more the one with less skill will learn. So I think you should go 100% if you don't abuse your opponent. Of course, if you're really, really better than him (like perhaps, let's say, godan against 6th kyu) the jigeiko won't be any fun for the 6th kyu and if the 6th kyu doesn't have enough fighting spirit to fight the godan so he gives up in mind, nobody will learn from this lesson nor have any fun.

    I hope you can understand my English^^

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •