View Poll Results: What's in your obi - iaito or shinken?

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Thread: Iaito or shinken?

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    Elf-alien Warrior satsumaruma's Avatar
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    The mega- bucks that Jonty earns Tim - he should buy you two.

    And offer himself up for you to practice Tameshigiri. (I suggest fooling him, by reverting to your Iaito - it would hurt a shitload more)
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    hmmm.... real cutting.... on a moving target... (he'd be running away so that counts as moving)

    The technical question is, of course, whether or not Jonty's skull is too thick to cut through. And if I did, would I hit a vital spot?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chidokan
    hmmm.... real cutting.... on a moving target... (he'd be running away so that counts as moving)

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    Well at least we would see how good your oi kaze is Tim
    Regards,

    Jonty


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    Don't call me Debbie! rottunpunk's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by satsumaruma
    And offer himself up for you to practice Tameshigiri. (I suggest fooling him, by reverting to your Iaito - it would hurt a shitload more)
    thats a bit mean.
    i dont dislike mr johnty
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    -iai-four nights a week. id like to do it every day, though i dont think my knees would agree

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    my favorite iai waza-ry thingy is that cutty heady, cutty necky, cutty waisty, changy timey cutty sidewardsy then slashy through the whole body-y...one


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    Back on topic please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nukitsuke
    Back on topic please.

    Good call. Sats has a way of making things personal.Typcial short man syndrome. Shaku envy.
    Regards,

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    I've just recieved my new Dynasty Forge 1095 Daimyo - mostly for tameshigiri but it's weight distribution and bohi make kata more enjoyable than my Wind and Thunder.

    Whilst not perfect, it has much more "Flow" to the tsuka as opposed to Hanwei blades.

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    So, for people who do tameshigiri, are there many using non-japanese made shinken? Paul Chen etc? Maybe I'm just spoiled, but I have no experience with blades made outside of Japan, and I guess I would be afraid of bad quality, breakage, etc. After reading about stainless blades, etc I don't know which makers to trust.

    Any suggestions on non-japanese made, high-quality blades for tameshigiri? Say for less than $3000?

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    One place to start searching is Bugei.com - they flog a lot of American-made blades that I hear are pretty good.
    Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. - H.L. Mencken

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    I think a Bugei or Chen would feel strange to you after Japanese blades. (Bugei are made in China also). The Tsuka on them are straight with now flow. That put me off buying one.

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    I use Chen cutters and I have to say that even though there is a massive difference to nihonto, it doesn't bother me as my iai to tameshigiri ratio is about 50:1. I would not spend more than a few hundred quid on a cutter for this reason.

    How about Howard Clark's stuff?
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    Two things.

    Jonty is fine and I don't dislike him either.

    I don't actually make things personal - I just think far too many people get all po faced about martial arts and I think it is too serious to take seriously.

    Every single Sensei I have come across ( and that includes Jujitsu, Aikido and Judo as well as Kendo, Jodo and Iai - I have tried all these one time or other) none of those that were any good took it TOO seriously. They enjoyed it - hence why they give up every single second of their valuable spare time to improve themselves and help others.

    Way too many 'Ninjas' about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by satsumaruma
    Two things.

    I just think far too many people get all po faced about martial arts and I think it is too serious to take seriously.

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    I'm afraid that is a tautology.
    Regards,

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    ooh posh word.
    theres not taking things too seriously, and banter between mates, and then theres personal insult spreading
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    ''If you study traditional iaido, Dan grades have no meaning'' - Iwata sensei

    "i dont lie, i never contradict, i sometimes forget"- Disraeli

    my favorite iai waza-ry thingy is that cutty heady, cutty necky, cutty waisty, changy timey cutty sidewardsy then slashy through the whole body-y...one


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    I'd love to get my hands on one of Howard Clarks swords...purely from an engineering materials viewpoint they are interesting. They are a bit boring to look at, (no pretty patterns, rottunpunk! ) but hold their edge well by all accounts. If you have a good search about the net, they have pics of them being bent almost into a circle and other weirdness. This would be a bonus to beginners who want to try cutting, but the problem is that the costs of them put them out of a beginners reach....
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    They will have to pry the sword from my cold dead fingers....
    Why are you reading this instead of being out training???? Excuses not accepted....

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