kendo vs kumdo

[Pokie]

sorry i have to put this in the spotlight but wat are the advantages/disadvantages between kendo and kumdo ? my korean fellow kendoka, who sometimes go to a kumdo dojo says kumdo is much better than kendo, physical strength and stamina...you can pick up much faster in kumdo. i guess this can be reflected with guys practising kumdo who came 1st in kyu level and 2nd in dan level in the aust kendo championships. With this in mind, could you really say that they are the same ? Like a red apple and green apple, taste different but gives you same vitamins in the end

[dorkusxmaximus]

kendo and kumdo is the same thing in my opinion.. From what I heard, kumdo practitioners just attack relentlessly until they score. Great strategy for kyus and shodans ^_^.

[dorkusxmaximus]

but I wonder what happens to zanshin through those flurry of attacks???

[MACSTA]

i guess zanshin will follow once they landed a proper cut???

[Ben F.]

Kendo and Kumdo are the same in just about every way. For example, Kendo has the Kendo no Kata; Kumdo has the exact same thing called Bbon. Kendo has free sparring; so does Kumdo. Kendo does kirakaeshi-Kumdo does Sam dan Jak, Ie dan Jak, Il dan Jak, Parranmuri. Kumdo also does some, what we call one step techniques, with bokken that I have not seen in a Kendo dojo. We also do some Iaido type techniques called Baldo Napto.

The Kendo method of sparring does seem more aimed at a "one cut- one point" whereas the Kumdo method is much more focused on multiple strikes. One could say it is very "hack and slash." Just like most Korean martial arts, there is not much focus on making things pretty or feel philosophically satisfying, like good zanshin, but rather the emphasis in on effectiveness. We don't even talk about zanshin. We are taught to leap in, strike the target, and leap back, clearing the hands out of range of a possible counter as opposed to the Kendo way of leaping in, cutting "men" for example and then following through with zanshin.

[fe-taru tora]

Kendo and Kumdo are the same in just about every way. For example, Kendo has the Kendo no Kata; Kumdo has the exact same thing called Bbon. Kendo has free sparring; so does Kumdo. Kendo does kirakaeshi-Kumdo does Sam dan Jak, Ie dan Jak, Il dan Jak, Parranmuri. Kumdo also does some, what we call one step techniques, with bokken that I have not seen in a Kendo dojo. We also do some Iaido type techniques called Baldo Napto.

The Kendo method of sparring does seem more aimed at a "one cut- one point" whereas the Kumdo method is much more focused on multiple strikes. One could say it is very "hack and slash." Just like most Korean martial arts, there is not much focus on making things pretty or feel philosophically satisfying, like good zanshin, but rather the emphasis in on effectiveness. We don't even talk about zanshin. We are taught to leap in, strike the target, and leap back, clearing the hands out of range of a possible counter as opposed to the Kendo way of leaping in, cutting "men" for example and then following through with zanshin.

Hack and slash ? !!!! sounds good. so is it better in your opinion kumdo I mean ?

[Old Warrior]

Forgive me if I appear irritated. I am more convinced than ever that the there is no difference between the two except the color of referee flags and the elimination of sonkyo. Any other difference is the result of the particular bend of the teacher. In our Kumdo school we: had a practicing Buddhist come in to teach how to meditate, zanshin is emphasized as a key part of an attack, kote and do are basically taught, mostly to keep the opponent honest for a men cut, etc. etc. There is not a single principle of good kendo - that we are not taught. I was corrected last night for poor posture and told "90% muhri (men), too much son mok (kote)". I just have to question the quality of the instruction if they are being taught anything else.

[taiwnezboi]

Forgive me if I appear irritated. I am more convinced than ever that the there is no difference between the two except the color of referee flags and the elimination of sonkyo. Any other difference is the result of the particular bend of the teacher. In our Kumdo school we: had a practicing Buddhist come in to teach how to meditate, zanshin is emphasized as a key part of an attack, kote and do are basically taught, mostly to keep the opponent honest for a men cut, etc. etc. There is not a single principle of good kendo - that we are not taught. I was corrected last night for poor posture and told "90% muhri (men), too much son mok (kote)". I just have to question the quality of the instruction if they are being taught anything else.

Our dojang is the same, except for the emphasis on "men" cuts. We're just taught all the techniques and pretty much given the freedom to find the one that we like the most. I guess I'm just odd, but I chose "doh" cuts, which I rarely ever see any Japanese players use. Now I'm playing around with the other skills, like the "men" cut =P

[Karaken]

Write Kendo and Kumdo in Chinese - Oh Boy, they look exactly same, you know why? Because they are..

Center - only

[Rob Challies]

I do 'Kumdo' in seoul and we are taught that zanshin is very important. In my opinion Kendo/Kumdo are the same thing, there are a few minor cosmetic differences but thats all.

[taiwnezboi]

I don't know where people came up with Kendo is equivalent to concentrating on one great cut whereas Kumdo is equivalent to breaking the opponent with a flurry of attacks, but it's not true. I practice Kumdo and I've sparred against people who practice Kendo. Their style is exactly the same.

[dorkusxmaximus]

that's why I said, "I heard" because it was all hearsay. Like i said before, both are the same in my opinion.

[MACSTA]

i think emphasis on flurry of attacks compared with single clean cuts is more a result of the individual's preference or their dojo's teaching emphasis, rather than the kendo vs kumdo style of attack.

[roc_kendo]

Kumdo Vs. Kendo

One BIG difference is;
Kumdo is Korean pronunciation of Chinese character(Hanja)
Kendo is Japanese pronunciation of Chinese character(Kanji)

[Nishi]

Originally posted by dorkusxmaximus
kendo and kumdo is the same thing in my opinion.. From what I heard, kumdo practitioners just attack relentlessly until they score. Great strategy for kyus and shodans ^_^.

Now i hear that this is not the case, besides some differences in the approach to training and the general look, kendo and kumdo are the same.....however when i see shiai involving kumdo players they usually always attack in combination, yet i consistantly hear that this is just coincedence.