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    Quote Originally Posted by sminki
    Couldn't agree more. It absolutely drives me up the wall when people who are not Japanese "osssss". Also, when non-Japanese people kiai like older Japanese senseis (Although technically, kiai is a very individual thing, this still bugs me. I'm probably getting myself in trouble by saying this though.) I feel like saying "Hey man, have you even been to Japan?"

    BTW, Charlie, you should probably say "Domo arigato gozaimasu" vs. just "Domo arigato". That could be a bit more formal/respectful.

    Lastly, as long as you've trained under the sensei for a fair amount of time and know him fairly well, I think you can go ask for pointers when you feel you need it. I think that holds true for both Korean and Japanese dojos.
    Please explain why non-Japanese people shouldn't "ossss". We use it in my dojo, and I often run into other martial artists from different arts ie karate and use "Oss" with them. How is this inapropriate?
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    Over here we usually will do the group 'rei' and then we'll line up from the highest rank sensei and 'rei' to them respectively after the other lower rank sensei/senpai 'rei' to the high rank sensei. The sensei will give us comments and pointers as and when they wish or they have any. After that, we will give them another 'rei' and will forward to the next sensei until the last. After that we will 'rei' to those that we keiko with. All the above 'rei' are greeted with "arigato gozaimasu" or "domo arigato gozaimasu".

    What do you feel when a sensei gives you comments about your mistakes and how to improve it?

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    I don't know whether this is uncommon but my sensei never does a review after class with any of the members. If he spots you doing something wrong, he'll just tell you there and then.
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    hi, Im in a new school in japan (Im a canadian exchange student in japan) and since I dont speak japanse (I normaly speak french so, Im sorry if I make mistakes in the english words too!!!) everyone tend to speak to me in english. ok, when I make funny faces or say bye bye instead of sayonara, they just like it. My kendo sensee is really nice and freak sometimes (laugh really loudly and sometimes dance... o_o) so, we dont have really rules, except for the end of the renshuu, we salute him, the men and then salute last for something I still dont know :] I wonder if it is allright for me to dont use the polite form of -masu verbs or say bye bye or things like that.

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    With your sensei, always use the polite form, even if they don't with you. There are different rules when speaking to those above you and those below you. Even if they feel really familiar and friendly, it is just good form to be extra polite with people like your sensei. It says a lot about your character and it will be appreciated and work to your advantage down the road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Donigan
    Please explain why non-Japanese people shouldn't "ossss". We use it in my dojo, and I often run into other martial artists from different arts ie karate and use "Oss" with them. How is this inapropriate?
    Well from what I know, ppl who say "ossu" are most likely ppl who are Jp and who know each other well. Kinda like saying brutha, my homeboy ), etc.. Though now that you mention it, asians saying "my nigga" (well this isn't racist, its ebonicsor my brutha don't fit the stereotype either...

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    In the dojo where I train, the sensei will just come to you while you're practicing, telling what you're doing wrong. Also the more experienced people will talk to you all the time when doing exercises. After the training, everyone changes in the same dressing room and after that we usually just stand and talk a bit about random stuff, so I have all the time I need to ask the sensei or other people what I did wrong, and how to improve it
    It helps that the sensei at this dojo is as Dutch as I am too, I guess.

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    I live and train in South Africa and I usually go up to my Sensei after each training session for tips or helpful info... But it seems that the average "junior" students are most of the time affraid because they dont know the way things work! Do you guys also find that in your clubs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beserk
    I live and train in South Africa and I usually go up to my Sensei after each training session for tips or helpful info... But it seems that the average "junior" students are most of the time affraid because they dont know the way things work! Do you guys also find that in your clubs?
    Absolutely, it's amazing how hard you have to prod some people into doing that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paikea
    Absolutely, it's amazing how hard you have to prod some people into doing that.
    They just need some motivation from the seniors because they will be grateful for the help. I always learn something new when talking to the sensei! Whether it is about waza or anything else in that line...

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    I've always seen that opposite... that people are afraid to not run up to sensei and bow. For example, if the entire dojo runs up to sensei to bow, perhaps I should do the same... when in rome sort of situation... otherwise the paranoia of being rude sneaks in the back their minds...

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    Quote Originally Posted by swrdply400mrela
    After class (after muk song, sp?), some of the senior members approach the sensei and sit in front of him while he does a quick review of what they need to work on. My question is, how do you know if you should go up?

    Once, a few senior members went up and one of them encouraged us to go up with them, but the guy next to me said we shouldn't go up since we didn't spar with our sensei. So instead, we packed away our bogu.

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    The way I've been taught is that you go up to sensei after class only if you've sparred with them, however,when we travel I just do what everyone else seems to be doing 'cause I don't want to miss out on getting good advise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miravil
    What do you feel when a sensei gives you comments about your mistakes and how to improve it?
    The first time I went to a large dojo and went up to the highest ranking sensei, all he said, over and over was, 'you have no kiai!' he also went about muttering 'baka miji' ...still not sure exactly what that means, but I gathered he was a crankey old man, lol
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