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    Your Kiai

    Hey guys, i'm pretty sure everyone here's noticed that all kiai sound different....what does yours sound like??? Is it a shriek? A 'yaaah!', or just 'meeeennn!!!!'?? Or maybe something different. Keep em posted!
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    Even though I have not started Kendo yet, (I read all the replys in my first post and decided to try Kendo since the club also offers Iadio training) I believe one's yells carry over styles.

    My yells sounds like a very loud "I-AHHH!!"

    I wonder how a person yells reflects apon their attributes, such as aggressiveness, "flashy-ness", confidence, etc.

    Another question to ask: I noticed that students who have no previous training in the fighting arts tend to take on the yell of their instructor (or favorite instructor if there is more than one), while students who have had taken other arts or have been in one art a long time tend to develop their own yell.

    Did you guys find your own personal yell, or did you "adopt" someone elses? If you adopted someone else's, did you change the pitch, loudness, or tone of the yell? For example, I adopted my instructor's yell, but he is very agressive and can be quick to anger if in the wrong mood (and a very tough fighter) so his yell is VERY loud and when you hear it you know he is ready to kick ass. I "adpoted" his yell (he was my first instructor and he brought me into the "arts), but made it my own. I "changed" it to suit my style and personality. It doesn't sound like, "I am going to waste you", but "Let's Go, bring it"

    That is another question, What does your "yell" say about you?

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    Curse the day I decided to change my kiai! It's now a freaking bad habit now. I miss my old kiai T_T. Somebody during the summer suggested that I change my kiai, so that's what I did. He said that I gave myself away whenever I kiai'd. Now, it's some ridiculous high-pitched kiai that's a cross between Bruce Lee and a victim in a horror movie. Do you recall hearing any loud, ridiculous kiai early in the pnkf taikai, Andoy? Oh my throat hurts just thinking about that high-pitched scream.

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    I used to do Tae Kwon Do, so my kiai developed from the kihap we have in that. Before an attack, I'll usually use a loud grunt, something like "Kaaaa", but if I'm feeling really riled up and ready to go, then I'll do something like a high-pitched, varying toned scream sounded out to "kiai", but so diluted that you can barely tell. It's something like what dorkusx just described as his, but mine sounds fearsome when I do it.

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    I'm a girl!!!!!!!! My voice is naturally high-pitched!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorkusxmaximus
    Curse the day I decided to change my kiai! It's now a freaking bad habit now. I miss my old kiai T_T. Somebody during the summer suggested that I change my kiai, so that's what I did. He said that I gave myself away whenever I kiai'd. Now, it's some ridiculous high-pitched kiai that's a cross between Bruce Lee and a victim in a horror movie. Do you recall hearing any loud, ridiculous kiai early in the pnkf taikai, Andoy? Oh my throat hurts just thinking about that high-pitched scream.
    Actually this year's taikai was pretty crazy! Never before i've seen so many different kamae used. And so many nito players! This year i've seen a nito vs nito match 3 times! But for kiai yeah i've heard a couple....one person's kiai sounded like a pig being slaughtered....honestly! The other one sounded like an owl or something....but both seem really effective because i saw the faces of their respective opponents and they were thrown off!

    Hey dorkus are you coming to the vancouver or steveston tournament in jan?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andoy
    Actually this year's taikai was pretty crazy! Never before i've seen so many different kamae used. And so many nito players! This year i've seen a nito vs nito match 3 times! But for kiai yeah i've heard a couple....one person's kiai sounded like a pig being slaughtered....honestly! The other one sounded like an owl or something....but both seem really effective because i saw the faces of their respective opponents and they were thrown off!

    Hey dorkus are you coming to the vancouver or steveston tournament in jan?
    I thought my kiai was bad =X. Yup, I'll be at Steveston for sure, but I'm not so sure about Vancouver. I was there last year though. My match didn't even last 10 seconds against Hayashi and Fukushima LOL, but the free food made up for such a short match ^_^. Ohh they whooped me so bad. The taikai was just as long as Steveston's. Do you remember freezing during the Vancouver taikai last year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorkusxmaximus
    I'm a girl!!!!!!!! My voice is naturally high-pitched!!!
    I've seen some girls do fearsome high pitched screams too. Ganbare!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorkusxmaximus
    I thought my kiai was bad =X. Yup, I'll be at Steveston for sure, but I'm not so sure about Vancouver. I was there last year though. My match didn't even last 10 seconds against Hayashi and Fukushima LOL, but the free food made up for such a short match ^_^. Ohh they whooped me so bad. The taikai was just as long as Steveston's. Do you remember freezing during the Vancouver taikai last year?
    Yeah, our place is a refridgerator during the day! That's why it's always tough to warm up right before a match. But yes the food makes up for it though! Oh well, hopefully you can make it to vancouver early next year but if not, see you at steveston!
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    I think mine is quite scary, one of my sempai was hiding behind the coach during my shiai, lol .
    It's kinda loud and deep I guess.
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    my kiai sounds more of a hut+ha sometimes.. I'm trying to break the "hut" habit now, since its not that.. intimidating.. Imagine me a 14 year old, coming at you to attack going "HUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!".. ooh! so scary! lol. Sometimes I catch myself going "HYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!" or "HAAAA!!".. hm.. what about noises besides Kiais that you usually make during a form?... like grunts? usually I'd be like "uh! rr! mh!" and such.. *shrugs* I'm only purple belt in Shaolin Kempo, wich is karate, so I've got time.. this makes me want to practice kiaing... good thing I've got martia arts class monday. heh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenshin Himura
    my kiai sounds more of a hut+ha sometimes.. I'm trying to break the "hut" habit now, since its not that.. intimidating.. Imagine me a 14 year old, coming at you to attack going "HUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!".. ooh! so scary! lol. Sometimes I catch myself going "HYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!" or "HAAAA!!".. hm.. what about noises besides Kiais that you usually make during a form?... like grunts? usually I'd be like "uh! rr! mh!" and such.. *shrugs* I'm only purple belt in Shaolin Kempo, wich is karate, so I've got time.. this makes me want to practice kiaing... good thing I've got martia arts class monday. heh
    Homeboy iz eyeda waching too much footballz or too manyz Kung Fu theeaterz moviez....Maybez youz can workz on da timingz of da kiaiz likez da dudez in da xtreme mahshal artz documentariez.....

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    Hmmmm I thought the kiai has to correspond with the location of the strike?

    Men if you are going to strike men and so on.

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    I haven't yet developed my own kiai yet, it tends to be a composite of the ones I have heard in my dojo. I am not yet able to copy the piercing screams I hear many of my sempai emit as they spar with each other. Some of the guys in my dojo can curl your blood with their kiai and one guy in particular always causes me flinch everytime he starts screaming. He could win just with the kiai!

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    Thats the use of kiai. It makes you 100% into the fight (If you put effort into your kiai-meaning scream your kiai at the best) and sometimes scares the opponent/distracts him. One of my sempai always screams YAHOOOOO! as his kiai when hes testing. He stopped doing it though, because he thaught it might be disrespectful. (dont know if thats true or not, but better safe than sorry) Another guy at a seminar had a kiai that was actually the word "bitch". Your kiai doesn't have to match your strike. Its as costomizable as you want it to be. Just keep in mind that you need to be respectful too. So I wouldn't advise you going around screaming four letter obsenities on the top of your voice for kiai. Although, technically, you could. Another use for kiai is to get you warmed up. If you put 35% effort into kendo, your only going to get 30% back, so even during warmup and stretches, count off with voice, and I garuntee that your keiko will go better. If your too relaxed, and are falling asleep, make yourself yell. I just figured that one out saturday. My kiai is absolutly random. I have no thaught, or try not to have any thaught of my kiai when Im in keiko. Thinking takes too much time, so after 5 months, Iv finally gotten my kiai to an automatic function- Im kiai trained (potty trained- hohoho lol) anyway, no more corny jokes
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