some more vocab queries...

[mystic_kendoka]

i'd just like to know what taitari and waza is?
-thanks

[x3r0]

taitari is when you sort of clash with your oppenent after a strike (usually men) and bounce back usually performing another strike (ex: men taitari kote)

waza is basically a technique used offensivly or as a counter measure (ex hitting ur oppoenents shinai to gain control of the center then striking men, or as your oppenets shinai comes down for a men, u block and counter with a do)

of course its easier said than done. there are proper ways of executing each waza, and needs quite a bit of practice till u start using them instinctivly

[Nanbanjin]

taitari is when you sort of clash with your oppenent after a strike (usually men) and bounce back usually performing another strike (ex: men taitari kote)

waza is basically a technique used offensivly or as a counter measure (ex hitting ur oppoenents shinai to gain control of the center then striking men, or as your oppenets shinai comes down for a men, u block and counter with a do)

of course its easier said than done. there are proper ways of executing each waza, and needs quite a bit of practice till u start using them instinctivly

Strictly speaking that should be "taiatari" or "tai-atari"

"tai" means "body" and "atari" is from the verb "ataru" which means "to clash".
So literally "taiatari" means "clashing bodies".
If your OS supports Japanese characters, "tai" is 体 and "atari" is 当たり, though there may be some differing opinions regarding this.

"Waza" means "technique". Even "men" is a "waza".
For example your "tokui-waza" is your "favourite technique" and this could be men, do, kote, hiki-men, nuki-do, or whatever.
The kanji for "waza" is 技.

[Nanbanjin]

Strictly speaking that should be "taiatari" or "tai-atari"

"tai" means "body" and "atari" is from the verb "ataru" which means "to clash".
So literally "taiatari" means "clashing bodies".
If your OS supports Japanese characters, "tai" is 体 and "atari" is 当たり, though there may be some differing opinions regarding this.

"Waza" means "technique". Even "men" is a "waza".
For example your "tokui-waza" is your "favourite technique" and this could be men, do, kote, hiki-men, nuki-do, or whatever.
The kanji for "waza" is 技.

Also, a technique used while moving backwards is a "hiki-waza" (引き技）
Hiki-waza do not necessarily have to involve tai-atari. They can also be performed from truba-zariai.
Hitting your opponent's kote while moving backwards after taiatari could be described as "tai-atari-hiki-kote".
Usually the strike before the taiatari would also be included. e.g. "men-tai-atari-hiki-kote"

[Nanbanjin]

Also, a technique used while moving backwards is a "hiki-waza" (引き技）
Hiki-waza do not necessarily have to involve tai-atari. They can also be performed from truba-zariai.
Hitting your opponent's kote while moving backwards after taiatari could be described as "tai-atari-hiki-kote".
Usually the strike before the taiatari would also be included. e.g. "men-tai-atari-hiki-kote"

Sorry, strictly speaking the k in kote would be softened to a g to give hiki-gote, not hiki-kote.

[Hai_hai]

i'd just like to know what taitari and waza is?
-thanks

Tai-atari is when you attack, and then run into your opponent with your gloves hitting your opponent's gloves.

Waza is a phrase meaning "What's up?"

[mystic_kendoka]

i am confident in saying that i can safely ignore the above comment...

also i am quite sure that hai_hai and yowai are the same person... yowai has stopped posting and hai_hai has taken his place...

[Hai_hai]

i am confident in saying that i can safely ignore the above comment...

also i am quite sure that hai_hai and yowai are the same person... yowai has stopped posting and hai_hai has taken his place...

There is nothing safe. Don't ever forget that.

If I were yowai, would I really be accomplishing anything.

[mystic_kendoka]

nop, but then u might not know that...

[Hai_hai]

If you don't know what tai-atari and waza are, you need to hang up your bogu and take up tap dancing.

[mystic_kendoka]

er hem.. well i do now..

[Hai_hai]

er hem.. well i do now..

I guess that makes you an eighth dan kendo player.

[ALI G]

Tai-atari is when you attack, and then run into your opponent with your gloves hitting your opponent's gloves.

Dey R Called Kotez not glovez....moron....

[Danny Boy]

Tai-atari is when you attack, and then run into your opponent with your gloves hitting your opponent's gloves.

Waza is a phrase meaning "What's up?"

In Kendo context, tai-atari is when you hit the oponent with your body with the intent to shock/break their spirit (& and if you're evil, their body). It usually ends up with one person lying on their bottom.

Waza : techniques. "Special" movements and attacks that will allow you to break enemy's kamae and let you get in to score a hit or allow you to counter-attack etc.

Plz correct me anyone if im wrong.

[Nanbanjin]

In Kendo context, tai-atari is when you hit the oponent with your body with the intent to shock/break their spirit (& and if you're evil, their body). It usually ends up with one person lying on their bottom.

Waza : techniques. "Special" movements and attacks that will allow you to break enemy's kamae and let you get in to score a hit or allow you to counter-attack etc.

Plz correct me anyone if im wrong.

tai-atari ( 体当たり ） means "body clash" nothing more nothing less. This should be done naturally WITHOUT trying to shock your opponent. Tai-atari is simply what happens if your opponent does not move out of the way after you have hit. If you run into them naturally they will be shocked. Any extra effort in trying to knock your opponent over is wasted effort.

waza is "techniques" and this does not need to be special though it can be.
A men cut is "basics" at the same time as being a "technique" as it is in English.
So men is kihon ( 基本 ) and waza ( 技 ) at the same time.
For the dictionary definition refer to http://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/search.p...0&base=1&row=7

In training we tend to differentiate between waza that are considered basics, which we call kihon and more advanced techniques that we call waza.
So you can see that waza can be used to describe both basic and advancd techniques.
For example your tokui-waza (favourite technique) could be men. Men is of course a basic technique, but is also a waza