apologizing?

[mystic_kendoka]

i was doing a geiko, against a sempai, when he hit me on the arm (not kote, on the bare arm) and then he bowed and said sth..?

is this a formal/traditional way of apologizing in japanese/kendo?

could someone tell me what this is? (im sure it will become useful later on)

[Eldritch Knight]

He probably said "shitsurei shimashita". Essentially, it means "I was rude", and is a form of apology.

[HawaiianKendoka]

He might have said "sumiasen" which means sorry or exuse me.

[Jagaimo]

He probably said "shitsurei shimashita". Essentially, it means "I was rude", and is a form of apology.

I usually just abbreviate that expression with the just the first four letters. Not intentionally of course...

[mystic_kendoka]

is there no definate or fixed way of doing so? (i mean apologizing, not swearing..)

[nodachi]

is there no definate or fixed way of doing so? (i mean apologizing, not swearing..)

There doesn't have to be such a formal way of apologizing that is fixed/definite. I guess this is where people try to be too formal when they don't need to. A simple, small bow and saying sorry is sufficient whether you say it in Japanese or English or your own language of choice is fine. The important thing is that the person understands that you are trying to apologize and not so much how you apologize. An "opps, are you okay?" will even suffice to apologize for a stray hit. In this situation, it's the thought that counts so don't worry so much about how you apologize as long as you do, you're fine.

[mystic_kendoka]

thank you..

[rfoxmich]

i was doing a geiko, against a sempai, when he hit me on the arm (not kote, on the bare arm) and then he bowed and said sth..?

is this a formal/traditional way of apologizing in japanese/kendo?

could someone tell me what this is? (im sure it will become useful later on)

Let's see, my collection of apologies includes:
Japanese:
Shitsurei shimasu (shimashita)
sumimasen
Go-burei

English
- Oh sorry
- You ok?
- Didn't mean to hit you there
- My mistake.

Replies
Japanese:
daijobu - It's ok
Mmm - (I didn't notice.. you were so light ;-)).

English
- It's ok.
- No problem.
- OOOOWWWWW ;-)

RF

[samurai999]

Here's the exchange between me and my partner during practice:

ME/Partner:Onegaishimaaasu...

Me: I apologize in advance for any hits that I miss.

Works well during tsuki and do practice..

Tim

[Yowai]

When smacked on the arm, one must say the following:

"You swine. You vulgar little maggot. Don't you know that you are pathetic? You worthless bag of filth. As we say in Texas, I'll bet you couldn't pour piss out of a boot with instructions on the heel. You are a canker. A sore that won't go away. I would rather kiss a lawyer than be seen with you.

You are a fiend and a coward, and you have bad breath. You are degenerate, noxious and depraved. I feel debased just for knowing you exist. I despise everything about you. You are a bloody nardless newbie twit protohominid chromosomally aberrant caricature of a coprophagic cloacal parasitic pond scum and I wish you would go away.

You're a putrescence mass, a walking vomit. You are a spineless little worm deserving nothing but the profoundest contempt. You are a jerk, a cad, a weasel. Your life is a monument to stupidity. You are a stench, a revulsion, a big suck on a sour lemon.

You are a bleating fool, a curdled staggering mutant dwarf smeared richly with the effluvia and offal accompanying your alleged birth into this world. An insensate, blinking calf, meaningful to nobody, abandoned by the puke-drooling, giggling beasts who sired you and then killed themselves in recognition of what they had done.

I will never get over the embarrassment of belonging to the same species as you. You are a monster, an ogre, a malformity. I barf at the very thought of you. You have all the appeal of a paper cut. Lepers avoid you. You are vile, worthless, less than nothing. You are a weed, a fungus, the dregs of this earth. And did I mention you smell?"

[ALI G]

When smacked on the arm, one must say the following:

"You swine. You vulgar little maggot. Don't you know that you are pathetic? You worthless bag of filth. As we say in Texas, I'll bet you couldn't pour piss out of a boot with instructions on the heel. You are a canker. A sore that won't go away. I would rather kiss a lawyer than be seen with you.

You are a fiend and a coward, and you have bad breath. You are degenerate, noxious and depraved. I feel debased just for knowing you exist. I despise everything about you. You are a bloody nardless newbie twit protohominid chromosomally aberrant caricature of a coprophagic cloacal parasitic pond scum and I wish you would go away.

You're a putrescence mass, a walking vomit. You are a spineless little worm deserving nothing but the profoundest contempt. You are a jerk, a cad, a weasel. Your life is a monument to stupidity. You are a stench, a revulsion, a big suck on a sour lemon.

You are a bleating fool, a curdled staggering mutant dwarf smeared richly with the effluvia and offal accompanying your alleged birth into this world. An insensate, blinking calf, meaningful to nobody, abandoned by the puke-drooling, giggling beasts who sired you and then killed themselves in recognition of what they had done.

I will never get over the embarrassment of belonging to the same species as you. You are a monster, an ogre, a malformity. I barf at the very thought of you. You have all the appeal of a paper cut. Lepers avoid you. You are vile, worthless, less than nothing. You are a weed, a fungus, the dregs of this earth. And did I mention you smell?"

Weakboy.....Thankz 4 summarizingz & sharingz wut peepz thinkz & seyz aboutz youz all da timez......

[Hiryu]

Once upon a time, long long ago, when dragons, dinosaurs and fairies (OK, I live close to S.F. I had to) roamed the earth, I was practicing in Southern Cal, close to the ends of the earth.

A very old sensei came to practice when I was a beginner and had just started to wear bogu. He moved very slowly but with precision and accuracy, had a gentle face with a stern gaze and an explosive and warm smile. He was obviously from my first perceptions a strong and gently kind individual. He was the first sensei and last I have seen strike his opponents doh, first on the right side and then the left before they passed him, and inbetween or first blocking their men strike. These were my first impressions of James Oka sensei.

One day while he was instructing me, he had me striking men, basically okimen, kakarikeiko. He'd stand there open his men up "Go Men" he'd say and tell me to go faster. Back and forth. I was wearing tare, do, and kote. Pretty soon, he would start picking off my kote as I went through. Then he accidentally hit a little high. It stung a bit, but when I turned around, his shinai was in one hand and he was approaching me with one hand out palm up, "gomen" he said, and I heard "Go Men", I thought it a bit strange hed lean over for it, but doing as sensei said, I Went for men... This happened twice. "Gomen"... beginner hears "Go Men"ahhh white boy hits Meeennnn! Untill Nizawa sensei, just about laughing his head off at me, pulls me over and explains to me the difference between "Go Men" and "gomen". After this, for many years, and many beers, this was good for a few laughs between Oka sensei, myself and a few others in SO.Cal.
Sadly, Oka sensei passed away a few years ago. He was doing what he loved, playing kendo. And if I may say so, he was playing kendo with someone else who's kendo I admire greatly, and whom I am sure Oka sensei was enjoying his match with.