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    Thumbs up Sword of the samurai

    This may have been posted before, but here you go.

    National Geographic documentary "Sword of the samurai"

    Part 1/5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVCrQ4KpezA
    part 2/5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MARR_p2fHk
    part 3/5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggr98XnsjnU
    part 4/5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOQd7-tJ4v8
    part 5/5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5aKwLyXJFQ
    Gordon

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    "Sam yer eye!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by b8amack View Post
    "Sam yer eye!"
    gotta love that fancy british accent.
    Gordon

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    I sense more flames coming...

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    Waaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh bring your popcorn back to reclaiming the blade thread.

    baba booey baba booey baba booey
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    Regarding those video, which koryu is that used by the sensei cutting the arrows (Mr.Tanaka i think)?
    http://www.youtube.com/v/k5aKwLyXJFQ
    "Time is the best teacher, it's a shame that in the end he kills all his students.."
    http://muganokai.forumattivo.com/forum.htm

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    I liked it... am I not suppose to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffa View Post
    Regarding those video, which koryu is that used by the sensei cutting the arrows (Mr.Tanaka i think)?
    http://www.youtube.com/v/k5aKwLyXJFQ
    Wikipedia has the "short" list of what he does HERE although I have seen longer lists before.

    The highlights are

    Soke
    * 19th Sōke - Kukishin Ryu Bujutsu
    * 11th Sōke - Koden Enshin Ryu
    * 4th Sōke - The restored school Honmon Enshin Ryu Suemonogiri Kenpo
    * 19th Sōke - Tenshin Hyoho Shoden Kukamishin Ryu
    Soke-Dairi
    * Hontai Takagi Yoshin Ryu
    * Bokuden Ryu
    * Shinto Tenshin Ryu (Tenshin Koryu)
    * Shinden Fudo Ryu
    * Asayama Ichiden Ryu
    * Shindo Tenshin Ryu
    Others
    * Modern Kendō - 4th dan
    * Modern Bōjutsu - 5th dan
    * Kumiuchi Hyōhō Soden Yawara-no-jutsu - 7th dan
    * Kyoshi battōjutsu - 7th dan
    * Hanshi kobudō - 8th dan
    * Koga Ryu ninjutsu
    * Iga Ryu ninpo


    His Kukishin-ryu is considered legitimate lineage-wise and he was a member of the Nihon Kobudo Kyokai through that (see the book "Nihon Kobudo Soran" p.168. He seems to make most of his yen from the Enshin-ryu stuff these days though). I have met and trained with Kyodo Matsuda (who is a menkyo kaiden in Shinto Muso-ryu jojutsu through Kaminoda sensei) from whom Tanaka "received" Kukishin-ryu and also have a good friend who is one of his (Matsuda's) students as well. Matsuda was named the soke, but from my understanding had zero interest in passing on the ryu (he is to my understanding focused mostly on Shinto Muso-ryu). Tanaka Fumon also trained together with him so he basically passed it off onto him in "hot potato" fashion. Anyways, as the above list might hint at, Tanaka is generally seen as something of "collector" by most over here.

    Rennis

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffa View Post
    Regarding those video, which koryu is that used by the sensei cutting the arrows (Mr.Tanaka i think)?
    http://www.youtube.com/v/k5aKwLyXJFQ
    Look at how far his daughter draws the string back and then look at far someone who does kyudo draws the bow.
    She might as well have thrown the arrow at him.

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    Robert A. Booey sirius1906's Avatar
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    I didn't care much about that stunt. I just thought the forging and metallurgy was interesting.
    Gordon

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1prettygirl View Post
    I liked it... am I not suppose to?
    Quote Originally Posted by sirius1906 View Post
    I didn't care much about that stunt. I just thought the forging and metallurgy was interesting.
    Right, right, the sword-making part is wonderfull, the Tanaka part....well....

    Quote Originally Posted by Rennis View Post
    Wikipedia has the "short" list of what he does HERE although I have seen longer lists before.

    The highlights are

    Soke
    * 19th Sōke - Kukishin Ryu Bujutsu
    * 11th Sōke - Koden Enshin Ryu
    * 4th Sōke - The restored school Honmon Enshin Ryu Suemonogiri Kenpo
    * 19th Sōke - Tenshin Hyoho Shoden Kukamishin Ryu
    Soke-Dairi
    * Hontai Takagi Yoshin Ryu
    * Bokuden Ryu
    * Shinto Tenshin Ryu (Tenshin Koryu)
    * Shinden Fudo Ryu
    * Asayama Ichiden Ryu
    * Shindo Tenshin Ryu
    Others
    * Modern Kendō - 4th dan
    * Modern Bōjutsu - 5th dan
    * Kumiuchi Hyōhō Soden Yawara-no-jutsu - 7th dan
    * Kyoshi battōjutsu - 7th dan
    * Hanshi kobudō - 8th dan
    * Koga Ryu ninjutsu
    * Iga Ryu ninpo


    His Kukishin-ryu is considered legitimate lineage-wise and he was a member of the Nihon Kobudo Kyokai through that (see the book "Nihon Kobudo Soran" p.168. He seems to make most of his yen from the Enshin-ryu stuff these days though). I have met and trained with Kyodo Matsuda (who is a menkyo kaiden in Shinto Muso-ryu jojutsu through Kaminoda sensei) from whom Tanaka "received" Kukishin-ryu and also have a good friend who is one of his (Matsuda's) students as well. Matsuda was named the soke, but from my understanding had zero interest in passing on the ryu (he is to my understanding focused mostly on Shinto Muso-ryu). Tanaka Fumon also trained together with him so he basically passed it off onto him in "hot potato" fashion. Anyways, as the above list might hint at, Tanaka is generally seen as something of "collector" by most over here.

    Rennis
    Thank you for making it clear Rennis!
    now we can understand a thing or two...

    Quote Originally Posted by xvikingx View Post
    Look at how far his daughter draws the string back and then look at far someone who does kyudo draws the bow.
    She might as well have thrown the arrow at him.
    The few times i have seen cutting arrows the bow was "loaded" in that way.
    Is one of tricks related to his safe execution of the whole thing i suppose (along with not aiming directly at the person's body, but a litttle on the left).
    "Time is the best teacher, it's a shame that in the end he kills all his students.."
    http://muganokai.forumattivo.com/forum.htm

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    He looked like a clown cutting the arrows. A circus clown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by b8amack View Post
    He looked like a clown cutting the arrows. A circus clown.
    An old circus clown. Never good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffa View Post
    The few times i have seen cutting arrows the bow was "loaded" in that way. Is one of tricks related to his safe execution of the whole thing i suppose (along with not aiming directly at the person's body, but a litttle on the left).
    not much difference from the katana splitting bullet youtube clip.
    Gordon

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