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    Unhappy Nitou in tournaments and my wrist hertz (;_;)

    For a few months I have been trying to learn Nito ryuu from a book. I don't know why, but Musashi said it is good to touch on all the martial arts and I think Nito looks interesting.

    First I wanted to know, if in some miracle I get really good at Nito or just feel like doing it. Could I ask to do it in a normal kendo Shiai? I read that people do Jodan in normal shiai and even tournaments.

    Now I am learning about cutting with one hand. The book says that you should find the centre of gravity of the shinai or a bokken or Niten ichi ryu bokken and then practice swinging not from the tsuka (Handle) but from that centre of gravity. This is a little confusing, it works a little but really makes my wrist heart after a wile. There seems to be no power or speed at all but I don't want to use my wrist too much because it says not too and I find in kendo you can swing a lot faster and better with no use of energy.

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    Coudln't tell you about nito, but you can do joudan in shiai

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    first of all , I don't think its a good ideal to learn nito from a book, it would be more helpful to learn from a good instructor, he can point things that you are doing wrong , 2nd before you even start to use one arm , i would suggest training your arm , do as moocow did , alot of one handed suburi , weights, i did it and it help especialy when you have to hold the shinai over your head for extended periods of time ..

    but i would ask moocow for help ..



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    Hi Inouye02, Thanks for your reply. If I was in Japan maybe I could find a Nito dojyo. But I don't actually think there are any in the UK. If there were I don't think I could get there and kendo at the same time. Maybe in future, but for now I am finding it interesting to understand the basics by my self . Maybe if I am ever faced with a Nito senshuu it would know what do...

    It also says about training your arms in the book, I can also use my right arm and even left pretty well even with my big dobari shinai. It is just hard work to get good cuts out of it . Maybe I just need a little more practice...

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    I don't think there dojos that specialize in Nito, ask your Sensei for teaching. Maybe he can give you some hints.
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    hey Musha, your welcome , you can also send for the Nito Video from E-Bogu, but then again it doesn't have the moocow waza's in it ..gotta come to So Cal for those..



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    There was an English sensei that came to my dojyo when I first started learning that could do Nito and tried it against another sensei but I have not seen him since that time. But if I did see him again I think he would be too busy to teach me .

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    There's a couple of guys doing nito in the UK. (Their names escapes me), one is up north, the other I *think* is at Nenriki in London.
    Regardless, I wouldnt start doing it unless you got the support from your seniors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Musha
    Hi Inouye02, But I don't actually think there are any in the UK. :

    As I recall I've only seen 2 Uk guys doing nito.
    Gavin Thriepland in Newcastle
    Clive Sinclaire in London



    At one time the chairman John Howell did Nito

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    Nito

    Hi Steve,

    Eric is talking about Steve Harwood, as he fences Nito from time to time. He started whilst he was out in Japan, I don't know much about Nito but he struck me as being pretty good at it..... Struck me get it... did you see what I did there..... sorry bad joke
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    Thanks again Gareth ,

    I remember that he had been to Japan and some one said he could speak Japanese but I knew almost nothing about Kendo at that time. I think I was just starting to use bogu borrowed from my Sensei.
    I thought every one could do Nito at that time hehe.
    He used the two shinai like some one fighting with one though.

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    Musha,

    which language is the book are you using written in? Everything I found was in Japanese.

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    Ralph, this book is in Japanese too and quite hard Japanese at that . I have read some parts twice because I did not understand it the first time. I got it from Amazon Japan but you can also get it from E-bogu http://www.e-bogu.com/nitoryu.html

    I think people out side Japan are really missing out with the lack of text that is sold about kendo. It is good learning from your sensei but, unless this is just me I find some of the harder techniques a little hard to follow. So really love a book by 6th dan Inoue sensei that includes lots of photos step by step of very basic to harder techniques like Uchi otoshi men and diagrams in full colour!! . I wish I could translate them but don't know how.. never mind where to send it when finished .
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    Lightbulb Hi Musha

    Hi Musha nice to meet you

    I live in The UK and nito fighter which is based on Musashi-Kai. although I can not teach you nito, because I am still learning it, but I can heip you some basic Kihon. Please e-mail me.

    in one advise, Do not use 39 or 38 shinai for keiko. this has nothing to do with weight. I want you to get used to nito Ma a i (distance).

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    [QUOTE=Hokushin]I live in The UK and nito fighter which is based on Musashi-Kai.QUOTE]
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