Quick Draw?

[ZrJn89]

In samurai x (anime) if u've seen it, the main characters art is based on hiten mitsurugi ryu which he uses the quick draw. I was wondering is their actually an art called hiten that uses the quick draw as its foundation, if their isn't, is their any form of kenjutsu that uses this method as its laid out foundation. I haven't taken any classes in kenjutsu and kendo, but i kno the alot of the history of the samurai. So if any of u guys could give me some imput,

[hyouriittai]

In samurai x (anime) if u've seen it, the main characters art is based on hiten mitsurugi ryu which he uses the quick draw. I was wondering is their actually an art called hiten that uses the quick draw as its foundation, if their isn't, is their any form of kenjutsu that uses this method as its laid out foundation. I haven't taken any classes in kenjutsu and kendo, but i kno the alot of the history of the samurai. So if any of u guys could give me some imput,

Quickdraw McGraw?

Hiten Mitsurugi Ryu is a fictional ryuha. The 'quickdraw' that I think is described in the cartoon is battojutsu. From what I hear, batto and iai are similar in description, but I'm not sure what the underlying differences are.

[xvikingx]

ZrJn89,

Here is what happens when you "quick draw" : http://www.tsuki-kage.com/darwin.html
Read the article about the batto-do demo, towards the end. It is best not to apply what you have learned from anime to kendo (or any other budo for that matter).

[Kenshin Himura]

The Technique your talking about is Battou Jutsu, wich is extremealy hard to actually do well. I've done it at an amature level, seeing I don't have the space inside to do it with my reverse blade katana. Its an attack where you stand in a stance with your right leg forward, left leg back, and step 3 times, then draw and slash. You have to keep your mind off of the sword hitting you though or you can't do it right. Anyways, if you do if its harsh on your arm, my elbow ached a bit after doing so, so did my wrist, because its not easy for when I do it (I'm only 14. I'm not in any kendo class, just marial arts, but I know how to do it from studying) it usually is harder to do then other things. After a while you may get used to it, but you have to study alot about Samurai X, Kenshin, and his style if you want to succed. It works if you do it right, trust me. ^^x I think you'll be happy with your results if you do well, that you will.

one more thing

BE EXTREMALY CAREFUL!!! PLEASE!!!!!!!

[ZrJn89]

ZrJn89,

Here is what happens when you "quick draw" : http://www.tsuki-kage.com/darwin.html
Read the article about the batto-do demo, towards the end. It is best not to apply what you have learned from anime to kendo (or any other budo for that matter).

thanks for ur imput, i must admit that was pretty stupid of the so called "master" i was just curious if any art like that existed at all or something similar. anyhow thanks for the warning.

[xvikingx]

thanks for ur imput, i must admit that was pretty stupid of the so called "master" i was just curious if any art like that existed at all or something similar. anyhow thanks for the warning.

I would hold my tongue if I were you. You don't know this guy or batto-do for that matter, yet you call him stupid. It is an unfortunate accident that occured do to hastiness. The man is obviously aware of the mistake he made and has paid his dues. Yes, batto-do is very real. I guess you didn't bother to read any further about Toyama-ryu or the ZNBR. I was hoping facts with historical value could become a bigger influece than "Ruroni Kenshi".

Oh and Kenshin Himura,
Maybe you could indulge us and tell us what the difference between batto-do and batto-jutsu is? And I sincerely hope you are joking about studying "Samurai X".
What a ridiculous name... Oooh he's got a cross-shaped scar, let's call him "X".. NO! "Samurai X". Cause he is a samurai to the X-treme.
I can understand if this anime has sparked your intrerest in budo but please don't take these cartoons too seriously. Please.

[Kenshin Himura]

Oh and Kenshin Himura,
Maybe you could indulge us and tell us what the difference between batto-do and batto-jutsu is? And I sincerely hope you are joking about studying "Samurai X".
What a ridiculous name... Oooh he's got a cross-shaped scar, let's call him "X".. NO! "Samurai X". Cause he is a samurai to the X-treme.
I can understand if this anime has sparked your intrerest in budo but please don't take these cartoons too seriously. Please.

Well actually during the summer I found it interesting to actually look into it. no I didnt print out 50 page packets and study it deeply... What I did was look up hot his techniques related to ones that are possible in real life, and also i looked up a bit of history about it. *shrugs* I just find it interesting. Also, for Batto-do and Battou-Jutsu, theres.. Well i need to look deeply into it but I think theres only a slight difference in it to make it better, since the Battou-Jutsu i know of is an older version (and also an anime one) but the anime was only the base of my inspiration. *shurgs* anyways forget it.

oh and also

ehe.. theres alot more behind Kenshin in the anime and they dont call him Samurai X. ^^x' his name is Shinta Himura, his family died of Cholera when he was only about 4. A swordsman of the Hiten-.. oh forget it.. ^^x' ehe.. I'm only 14... I have the right to be like this!!!! lol

[ZrJn89]

I would hold my tongue if I were you. You don't know this guy or batto-do for that matter, yet you call him stupid. It is an unfortunate accident that occured do to hastiness. The man is obviously aware of the mistake he made and has paid his dues. Yes, batto-do is very real. I guess you didn't bother to read any further about Toyama-ryu or the ZNBR. I was hoping facts with historical value could become a bigger influece than "Ruroni Kenshi".

Oh and Kenshin Himura,
Maybe you could indulge us and tell us what the difference between batto-do and batto-jutsu is? And I sincerely hope you are joking about studying "Samurai X".
What a ridiculous name... Oooh he's got a cross-shaped scar, let's call him "X".. NO! "Samurai X". Cause he is a samurai to the X-treme.
I can understand if this anime has sparked your intrerest in budo but please don't take these cartoons too seriously. Please.

hmmm i should apologize if i've offended u but, i've never said Rurouni Kenshin was ever my inspiration, i only asked if their was an art that was similar to it. also ur rite that i shouldn't judge that person because of a mistake he made, especiallly when i don't know him, my apologies for that also. again thank u for warning me about practicing such things without proper instruction.

[xvikingx]

Also, for Batto-do and Battou-Jutsu, theres.. Well i need to look deeply into it but I think theres only a slight difference in it to make it better, since the Battou-Jutsu i know of is an older version (and also an anime one) but the anime was only the base of my inspiration. *shurgs* anyways forget it.

O.k. I'll forget it.

ehe.. theres alot more behind Kenshin in the anime and they dont call him Samurai X. ^^x' his name is Shinta Himura, his family died of Cholera when he was only about 4. A swordsman of the Hiten-.. oh forget it.. ^^x' ehe.. I'm only 14... I have the right to be like this!!!! lol

I know the premise behind "Rurouni Kenshin". At 14 you should be able to distinguish the difference between reality and cartoons. His sword techniques are not real. You are going to hurt yourself, or worse, someone else by imitating them.

ZrJn89,
No need to be so apologetic. I don't mean to sound so harsh; that's just me. Anyways, I was just hoping to kind of point you in the right direction. Many people take up kendo (or iaido or whatever) because they have a certain image of it brought on by a movie/ manga/ anime. Usually these people quit after they find out it is nothing like it was shown in that movie/ manga/ anime.
There is a serious bastardization of Japanese culture in western nations, that is perpetuated by people who like to tell others what they "know" about Japan. For example: If you check out any of the threads regarding Miyamoto Musashi, you will see that many people state "facts" that they learned about him from reading the fictional novel Musashi, by Eiji Yoshikawa. Also our local, self-taught battou expert above, had encouraged you to practice imaginary techniques created for an action cartoon. Unbelievably irresponsible! I forgot, he's only 14; he has the right to act like a fool.

[Kenshin Himura]

oh ha ha. I have the right to dream and experiment. Sheesh.. anyways I never try to do the moves.. I mean I dont go running around shouting "HITEN MITSURUGI STYLE RYU TSUI SEN!!!" then jump up and slash some thing in half. What I do is uaully look at WHAT IT WAS BASED ON. Well.. ok, maybe by the way I sounded it did seem like I did that.. anyways.. no need to be so harsh, you could at least be nice and say "Its not a good idea to study them. People have tried and gotte hurt. I suggest trying this by this: *link or something or a title of a book* to help you learn." *shrugs* well it doesnt matter. Well if I never looked into the anime I would never have learned about what Iaido is by now.. I heard on the anime Battou Jutsu and drawing the sword..then looked it up.. then found that what I was looking to learn was Iaido. Anyways,

where the guy cut off his thumb in the quick draw (Ama Kakeru Ryu No Hirameki) that was because his sheath SPLIT AT THE END. I'm using a reverse blade, so its less likeley that the sheath will split and ALSO I cant cut my hand off if it does because the blade is on the other side.

Well since I'm using a reverse blade katana, the most I can do is break a bone in my hand, or get it flung into my wall.. I never do this near somebody.. ^^x' I'm careful.. VERY.. careful.. when I feel something wrong or different I stop immediateley. Well I gtg, I'll be back later.

[xvikingx]

YAWN

[Kenshin Himura]

YAWN

Yawn about what? I'm not trying to brag or entertain you. I'm just telling you somnething as an informative. *shrugs* Why are you acting like this? Theres has to be a reason for your rudeness.

[Kenshin Himura]

ZrJn89,

Here is what happens when you "quick draw" : http://www.tsuki-kage.com/darwin.html
Read the article about the batto-do demo, towards the end. It is best not to apply what you have learned from anime to kendo (or any other budo for that matter).

Also, this is NOT what happens when you do the quick draw. If you actually read the thing, it said the sheat split at the end, so it cut his thumb off. If the sheath didnt split it wouldnt have happened. *shrugs* But its still possible that an injury could happen while doing this. When I've tried it, I hyperextended my elbow slightly.. or.. something, but it hurt for a bit. also, if you dont have a good grip of the sword either A: somebody's going to have a nice gash/stab in them or B: somebody's going to have a sword in thier wall
lol

another thing. No, there is no official Hiten Mitsurugi sword style. There is Batto-d and Iai-do, wich are simalar to what some of Kenshin's attacks are based on. *shrugs* from what I've learned they are based of Kenjutsu, Battou-jutsu (Iaido/Batto-do), and Ninjitsu.. i think.. oh well, dont follow anime though. Try other ways.. that can also be close.. lol
anyways, thats all I have to say for now.

[xvikingx]

The yawn is for a little boy who keeps blathering on about "facts" he has learned from a cartoon. A little boy who thinks he is Kenshin. A little boy who still can't tell the difference between fantasy and reality.

Also, this is NOT what happens when you do the quick draw. If you actually read the thing, it said the sheat split at the end, so it cut his thumb off. If the sheath didnt split it wouldnt have happened.

You like being wrong don't you? The point that you have failed to grasp time and time again, is that if this man had not rushed things he would not have split his saya and sever his own thumb. You blame the saya for splitting. Maybe next you will blame the the sword for being sharp or his flesh for being weaker than steal.
This mistake was made by an experienced man, who was flown to L.A. My point is if a man with years of experience and knowledge can accidentally cut his own thumb off demonstrating a technique he has (probably) done a thousand times over, a little boy imitating a cartoon has a very good chance of hurting himself or others. And don't give me any more "kenshin reverse blade" BS.

There is Batto-d and Iai-do, wich are simalar to what some of Kenshin's attacks are based on. *shrugs* from what I've learned they are based of Kenjutsu, Battou-jutsu (Iaido/Batto-do), and Ninjitsu.. i think.. oh well, dont follow anime though.

Oh really?! What an astute observation! *I have noticed your reading comprehesion skills are a bit subpar, so I will point out the sarcasm for you.* That is like saying a sniper has based his techniques on sharp shooting. You don't even know what those words mean! You keep regurgitating crap you learn from a cartoon!
Save your *shrug*s and your "samurai x" smiley faces for your website and wanker fan-boys. This site is for people who study and want to learn about budo. We already have our fair share of psychos who think they are samurai.

[Kenshin Himura]

You may think what you want but people who dont have respect for others don't deserve to do kendo. I'm not a little boy, the "faces" I make are just something I've become accustomed to. And please, you shouldt judge others by common (or.. multiple) mistaked made in a FORUM. I dont base my life off this anime.
Its ok to dream, isnt it? I go throuigh things step by step and when I see something that doesnt work, I stop, and move on. I dont try to force it to work. And i belive my readong comprehension skills are fine for life. ^^x I mean sure, maybe I cant convince you to instead of critisize and insult me to instead tell me in a kinder matter. And I know what sarcasm is. And what about the kenshin reverse blade? *shrugs* first of all its not a Kenshiny sword... I could care less if it had the signature of the maker on it.. I'd probobly end up sanding it off.. I only got it because I like swords like this. This isnt much to get in a fight over..

you could at least say "You shouldnt attempt to imatate a fictional character, it could lead to injury. If you want to try something you should get an instructor to show you something to learn instead of doing things on your own. We don't need another hurt swordsman (or trainee or whatever.)" instead of going "YAWN -.-"

If you've read Musashi's "The Book of Five Rings" you would have learned that a swordsman must learn to respect others, even his enemys. (yes, I read this book. my instructor reccomended it to me)
So maye we can resolve this in a civil manner?