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    Classes to take if your going to open your own dojo...

    Well... If you were to open your own dojo and teach some form of swordsmanship or make your own... What highschool/college classes would you have to teach?

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    You would have to know something about accounting, managing your own business, Some economics classes, your dojo doesn't have to support you but it shouldn't put you in debt either, I don't think it would be too much different than setting up a small service buisness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hattori Hanzo
    You would have to know something about accounting, managing your own business, Some economics classes, your dojo doesn't have to support you but it shouldn't put you in debt either, I don't think it would be too much different than setting up a small service buisness.
    shouldnt be that juch unless your going to have an indoor dojo in your house like I'm planning. lol expensive but itll pay off. lol

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    Also, anybody know the requirements or whatever you need to make your own style of fighting/swordsmanship? lol I might give it a shot.. I've got a nack at creativity. lol

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    Bunch of suckers that will buy into it? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenshin Himura
    Well... If you were to open your own dojo and teach some form of swordsmanship or make your own... What highschool/college classes would you have to teach?
    Hi Kenshin-san,

    Expect to have to earn a Menkyo Kaiden license from Japan if it's Koryu(Classical Japanese sword arts), and that can take like, 20 or more years to obtain. And, it is rare to earn one. You don't just open a dojo. If it's Kendo, you have to train for like, 20 years probably too, before you can teach.

    Kenshin-san, hop back to the Samurai Forum or e-budo and ask this. The sensei on e-budo can really tell you a lot about teaching and what it takes.

    And, you don't have to teach anything at a college or university. You just have to have trained and studied in a legit dojo and earned a Menkyo Kaiden to teach a Koryu JSA art(Of which there are many diferent Ryu. Ryu means style.), and if it's Kendo, be at a certain dan level in Kendo, and I think that's at least 3-4th dan or so. Ask one of the sensei here, to know what leverl a Kendoka can teach and run a dojo at. Better yet, ask Hyaku-sensei. He does both Kendo and Koryu Kenjutsu and teaches both arts.

    Just so you know...YOU CAN'T MAKE UP YOUR OWN SWORD ART AND TEACH IT!

    (I'm not yelling at you... I am putting emphasis on my words, since this is not in person.)

    Anyway, making up a sword art and teaching it, was already discussed in the Samurai Forum. Ask about that in the Samurai forum, and they'll not be happy. Worse, on e-budo.

    Does that help answer your question?

    Kaoru

    P.S. I posted dojos for you in the "Can someone help me?" put up by Himura Kenshin-san. Did you notice that? Please check them out.

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    Hm... I dont live near any Kendo dojos.. oh! and um.. well.. I know I can open up or at least help with a Martial arts dojo, because I'm going to an Instructor Meeting soon to learn about it (I'm only 14 and wow I can already be a martial arts co-instructor. lol) anyways, thanx

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    I also want to add, since the edit time is so limited,

    Go to Koryu.com to learn about the Koryu arts. I suggest you read all the articles on that site. They are written by prominant Koryu sensei.

    http://koryu.com

    I also wanted to add, that earning a Menkyo Kaiden is very, very hard to do. You must plan to work extremely hard. And, you must realise, that learning Koryu is a serious business. If you aren't ready to be serious and find a way to get to the dojos I posted for you, then you probably aren't ready to learn a JSA yet. It takes a certain amount of maturity to study any JSA, whether it be Kendo or Koryu. You may find out you aren't willing to work hard enough to become good enough to be qualified to earn that license. And, that's ok. Doing the aet for fun, is just as good. But, you will not be allowed to teach it. The Koryu arts control who can and can't teach, very well. Kendo doesn't require a license, but, it does require you be trained in a legit dojo and hold a certain level of dan grade.

    Kaoru

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    I can't go to the 2 dojos you showed me. I'm only 14 so I have to rely on my parents to help me out with it, and I can't get a job to pay for it. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenshin Himura
    Hm... I dont live near any Kendo dojos.. oh! and um.. well.. I know I can open up or at least help with a Martial arts dojo, because I'm going to an Instructor Meeting soon to learn about it (I'm only 14 and wow I can already be a martial arts co-instructor. lol) anyways, thanx

    Niot in sword arts you can't. Remember that. I might let people know you are not a legit swordarts teacher. Trust me on that. I might post it on both of the other forums, too. Not to be mean, but we don't need people teaching fake sword arts, and making a mockery of it all. I am not joking, by the way.

    You ALSO can't teach at 14. I don't know what fake dojo you are talking about, but run away as far as you can. Without training in ANY martial art and be past the black belt level, YOU CAN'T TEACH!!!

    Kaoru

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    I'm not talking about teaching on my own. I'm talking about being beside the instructor during class.. Basically.. like a helper ^^x'. Anyways, I'm not saying I'm GOING to teach a sword art I made up!!!.. oh wait you were kiddign there.. I wasnt going to anyways. if I did teach I'd make sure to do it for a long time and teach a REAL one. lol anyways I realised I can possibly attend the kendo classes at Yale! ^.^x lol
    Anyways, I don't go to a fake dojo. Its martial arts.. And this place is different. It has MANY different rules and such.. but.. *shrugs* I'm not sure. Teaches Shaolin Kempo Karate.. Well.. maybe if you were in it you'd understand. lol Its not a kendo place at all though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenshin Himura
    I can't go to the 2 dojos you showed me. I'm only 14 so I have to rely on my parents to help me out with it, and I can't get a job to pay for it. lol

    Have you bothered asking them? The one in Stamford has a kids class for your age level. If you can go at least twice a month, that would be good. I go twice a month, because my dojo is 2 1/2 hrs away, in one direction. And, my Mom drives me. You should at least just call the sensei and go watch a practice to see what it really is. You have a choice there of Kendo or Iaido. Iaido is a Koryu art. It is the art of drawing and cutting in one motion. Kenjutsu is the battlefield art, and is not available in your state.

    You won't need Kendo armor for a very long time(You'll wear school armor, called bogu.), and the uniform is bought only when the sensei says to, and if you buy the uniform at bogubag.com, it isn't as much as other shops. Only worry about the things you need after watching a practice. The dojo fees might not be very much. I am sure you could discuss this with the sensei here. There are no testing fees like a run of the mill Martial Art has.
    You'll just havr to pay the annual All US Kendo Feferation dues, and dues for kids are less than for adults. I think yours would be what... 25 dollars for the year?

    And, if it is just not possible to train, read, read, read books on Koryu and Kendo. You will be able to when you get old enough to drive, if that's what you have to do. Just don't try to teach yourself. You'll just have to unlearn very bad habits. Trust me, that's not fun, and a huge waste of time. You can even go to a college where a Koryu or Kendo is available in the city the school is in. You are young, and have lots of time to learn a JSA. There is no rush.

    Kaoru

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    I emailed the guy who runs the kendo school in Yale University. I might be able to get there easier.. ^^x you have no idea how devoted I am.. lol although I'm still not sure.. I'm pretty close to M.A.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenshin Himura
    I'm not talking about teaching on my own. I'm talking about being beside the instructor during class.. Basically.. like a helper ^^x'. Anyways, I'm not saying I'm GOING to teach a sword art I made up!!!.. oh wait you were kiddign there.. I wasnt going to anyways. if I did teach I'd make sure to do it for a long time and teach a REAL one. lol anyways I realised I can possibly attend the kendo classes at Yale! ^.^x lol
    Anyways, I don't go to a fake dojo. Its martial arts.. And this place is different. It has MANY different rules and such.. but.. *shrugs* I'm not sure. Teaches Shaolin Kempo Karate.. Well.. maybe if you were in it you'd understand. lol Its not a kendo place at all though.

    Ah, I see! Well, have you been training in that art for a while? Thank you for explaining further. I appreciate it. I know what that style is.

    Oh, and if you haven't trained in it for long, you may want to just pass on helping teach for a while longer to get better at it. But, if you've been training for a while, helping the sensei will show you what you know and teach you a few things. You will learn about yourself as a student and your own training. When I used to do Tae Kwon Do, I was allowed to help teach in the lower rank classes when I got to a certain belt level(blue in ATA TKD)
    and I loved it. I wanted badly to take the test at red belt to become a trainee instructor, so knowing that, my sensei let me prepare for it, by allowing me to teach small groups of students under their supervision. I did this for about a half of a year, before we moved and I had to quit TKD. It was very rewarding, and I learned a lot about my own skills I needed to work on. So, if you are at the right level, and your sensei says yes, I hope you enjoy it. I think it would be good for you.

    The Yale one? Good! Please be sure to call the sensei first, and ask permission to watch a practice. Since it is a college dojo, you will want to make sure the sensei will let you practice there. The website doesn't say much about it, so it's just best to call. I don't think they teach Iaido there, though. I hope it works out that you get to go to either dojo!

    Kaoru

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