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    masamune
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    Japan has the root of kendo.

    http://www.geocities.co.jp/Athlete-A...3/english.html

    This site will explicate how Kendo, the Japanese fencing, has gone through centuries of development to become what it is today, and demonstrate how groundless and preposterous some Koeans' insistence about the origin of kendo is. They are intentionally fabricating and distorting the history of kendo. Just with paraphrasing kendo into kumdo and replacing kendo terminology with korean pronauceation, they are propagandizing kumdo is a Korean original culture and deceiving many people in USA and other countries. Moreover, reciting their elfish ideals , they do not follow the ideals of the kendo quite as the rest of the world does. Most of kumdo leaders' argument are nationalistic, and a considerable amount of revisionist history can be found regarding kumdo. It seems to be due to Korean national sentiments against past Japanese rule. We worry about the extension of the false rumor in contradiction to the historical fact,and protest against the intrigue filled with malice.

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    protest my ass

    WOW!! you "protest"!!!! i protest that you are a dumbass so stop complaining because you cant do anything about it

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    Katsuya
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    Nice quote, gundal!

    Quote Originally Posted by gUnDaL
    WOW!! you "protest"!!!! i protest that you are a dumbass so stop complaining because you cant do anything about it
    We got your message, so what about koreans, whats wrong with the pronounciations that the koreans are using, or is it that you are racist. Im not bashing on you,or it might be that im not taking your message to correctly.

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    日本の人種問題を要らない!

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    We've heard this one a million times before, there are more than enough threads like this in this forum with both sides of the argument and personally I'm tired of seeing new kendo v kumdo thread poping up now and then, please put your argument on an existing thread.
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    I think this link has already been posted on this forum too. But it's just for the sake of information, not to flame you .
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    One post by this member.

    Fortunately, Japan has the root of ninja. HAI-YAAA!

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    Kanji and Hiragana question

    Quote Originally Posted by xvikingx
    日本の人種問題を要らない!
    Ok, I am learning the Hiragana and Katakana and I have been trying to decipher your post for some time now. I know the romanji for some of the following:
    日 - ?
    本 - ?
    の - no
    人 - ? (kanji for person?)
    種 - ?
    問 - ?
    題 - ?
    - wo
    要 - ?
    ら - ra
    な - na
    い - i
    I have no idea what the kanji are. Please post a translation as I would love to know what it is you said.

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    Thumbs down Revisitonist history

    Quote Originally Posted by masamune
    http://www.geocities.co.jp/Athlete-A...3/english.html

    Moreover, reciting their elfish ideals , they do not follow the ideals of the kendo quite as the rest of the world does. Most of kumdo leaders' argument are nationalistic, and a considerable amount of revisionist history can be found regarding kumdo.
    OK...first of all, try spell check. "...elfish ideals..." I thought you were talking about Koreans not Elves.

    Secondly, Koreans are hardly the only ones guilty of rewriting history to meet their own nationalistic desires. Rape of Nanking ring a bell with anyone?
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    Does it matter?

    Personally to me it seems like the whole.....Taco Bell is not real mexican food! No it's not it's Americanized mexican food, same could said of Kumdo it's Koreanized Kendo, maybe it does have it's own roots? Of course the only thing taco bell roots you to is the toilet seat.

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    日 - ni
    本 - honn
    の - no
    人 - jin
    種 - shu
    問 - monn
    題 - dai
    - wo
    要 - i
    ら - ra
    な - na
    い - i

    Do you want me to translate further or would that be giving it away?

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    Yowai
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    Why in the bloody hell would the "root" of Kendo matter to any reasonable person?


    Most of kumdo leaders' argument are nationalistic
    As opposed to Japanese Kendoists? You crack me up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yowai
    As opposed to Japanese Kendoists? You crack me up.
    I went to the Nakakura Cup & winter seminar in Brussels, among the japanese delegation members there were 5 or 6 hachidan, a couple of nanadan and a whole bunch of rokudan. And there was Sagawa sensei (9th dan iaidoka who was in the military before and during ww2)...... They wouldn't have bothered to come over if they were really nationalistic.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiro
    I went to the Nakakura Cup & winter seminar in Brussels, among the japanese delegation members there were 5 or 6 hachidan, a couple of nanadan and a whole bunch of rokudan. And there was Sagawa sensei (9th dan iaidoka who was in the military before and during ww2)...... They wouldn't have bothered to come over if they were really nationalistic.......
    Not necessarily... Yukio Mishima, a kind of nationalistic Japanese fella' , traveled all over the "Western" world, had his books translated into foriegn languages, and often addressed foriegn guests.

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