Luck favors the weak, if you go to a dojo and develope skills you won't need it.
Luck favors the weak, if you go to a dojo and develope skills you won't need it.
Sorry my mistake, I mean Ura chudan. Check out my transition from a book I have been using. It shows the three types of physical Seme.To say "Gyakuchuudan is not a Kamae." is very short sighted, and to be perfectly honest in my opinion wrong. I have seen it maybe once, whilst for Kendo it maybe frowned upon, in maybe it may be perfectly acceptable with in a Koryu art ....
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Thank you for the advice people, keep it coming. As for concerns,
1).....The only "Fattening" thing I eat are things such as pizza and french fries..... even that is rare. I really watch sweet things such as "chocolate" I may only have once a week. If anything it's probably what I drink (soda) that does the worst to my health. I eat a lot of meat, but believe it or not, that's not all that bad as long as you don't eat a buttered up baked potato with it.
2) I have started excercising, for my footwork (do not be brash....) I use Dance Dance Revolution (A GAME CAN'T IMPROVE YOUR KENDO !!! !!11 ) before anyone says that, no, I use it to get a good foot workout. Dancing does require a lot of energy......Last time I measured playing 3 songs on Heavy was registering to burn around 400 calories.....think about that. I Also do a few squats, push ups and sit ups.
3)As for "the katana" no, I know the difference between a thing such as a katana and shinai. One is meant to kill and the other well, it could be used to kill, then again basically everything can, but moreso is a sporting weapon(which it is). I do not expect to learn kendo so that I can be a "katana" master. In reference of "the blade" I mean anything of the like, including a shinai. My Katana is not a decoration piece, it was actually a souvenir my friend generously gave to me. It is definitely not a toy.....and I know this. I don't go out and practice using it on things. I have practiced "Iai" and "nuki" a few times and parry and thrusting, but that's about it. I used "comfortable" not to show that I think I am some master of the katana, but the fact the weapon does not feel as foreign in my hands as others, and I am rather use to handling it carefully and not like a unexperienced trainee.
4)Yes, it's Bakumatsu (people do have spell errors...I don't keep the Boshin war in the back of mind 24/7...)
5) Yes, Tae Kwan Do is "Korean", I made the mistake of stereotyping it as Japanese (Even when I first joined), it also means (at my school at least) "strength of the Tiger". I guess I should say "Asian" culture, but moreso it's Japan than the rest that influences me.
6)I never said I'm "pretty good", I know nothing. However, I think I am an adequate opponent even without taking kendo. I just showed an example of what I wanted, what part do you miss? Form guides, if I can find some, I think they exist. Some of us can learn by reading instead of a physical method, even my "reference" for my user name learned his style from reading.....and what do you know, he was one of the top three hitokiri of the boshin war and he didn't belong to a dojo....I could be really sarcastic and respond by rude comments as to why somebody of his stature had no training and became a professional assassin just by reading, wait...I did. Sorry. and fighting just doesn't show up in history as always having some guide for everybody, they were invented without one -_-;
7)practice makes perfect........if you just want to train at a dojo with the help of a sensai all the time, whatever floats your boat. I do plan to go to a dojo, I just wish to learn some more foundations of what it is formed on. The posts that people such as GMason and Musha are making are giving me the info I want.......so thanks.
I have this book... and WHAT ARE YOU READING?!?Originally Posted by Musha
Hey... Omote/ Ura should mean outside/inside, not front and rear. In the book Hide says, from Chudan, you can either seme from the outside, or the inside...
Mingshi (Jenny) Wan - "A thousand suburi a day keeps your bullsh!t away..."
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Regarding your diet - if you eat more calories than you burn, you gain weight. If you eat less than you burn, you lose weight. If you're gaining weight and you think you don't eat much or that your activities are compensating for what you eat, you're deluding yourself. The most important thing is diet. You can easily eat 2000 calories more than you require, but to burn that much off you'd have to run about 15 miles. If you're serious, check out www.fitday.com. Be honest with the amounts and you may be surprised to find the results.
If you're a big soda drinker, switch to diet. A 12 oz can of Coke is 160 calories. It's not uncommon for sodaholics to drink 3 a day, which would be 3360 calories/week - that's almost a pound (every 3500 calories extra you take in is a pound gained).
Neil Gendzwill
Saskatoon Kendo Club
Hi Kawakami-san,
Ok...
GET THIS STRAIGHT PLEASE:
That "game" you dance on is NOT how you learn footwork. Footwork is NOT dancing. It is not even REMOTELY like dancing. Do you understand? NO, Dance Dance Revolution will NOT improve anything except let you have fun, which is useless. IF you were in a real dojo, you'd know this.
GO TO A DOJO. You CANNOT learn at home, period.
There is NO such thing as a "Forms Book" IF you actually set foot in a dojo, you'd know this. We don't even refer to anything as "forms." This isn't TKD.
People like you REALLY try my patience, and I have LOTS of patience.
YES, your sword IS a decoration piece. A real sword costs upwards the 300 dollar mark and above. I seriously doubt your friend would BUY you a sword that expensive and GIVE it to you. People like you do not know the difference between a real practice sword and a wallhanger.
Not like an inexperienced trainee?? YOU ARE an inexperienced trainee. You really know nothing about using a sword. Just because you READ it, does NOT mean you KNOW anything. And it definately means you don't know what the heck you are doing.
"Iai" is the ART, not a technique. Iai, called Iaido or Iaijutsu, is the art of drawing and cutting in one draw. "Nukitsuke" is unsheathing the blade to cut, and "noto" is the resheathing of the blade. You should NOT be trying this without proper training FROM A SENSEI.
Kawakami did NOT teach himself, that I know for sure. ALL Samurai were given proper instruction in using a sword. NOTE: I said SAMURAI. Peasants were not allowed to own swords. Any swordwork learned by a peasant was learned on their own, and they didn't get very far in learning as a result. They learned just enough to protect themselves. Kawakami was a SAMURAI. Understand?
You are only fooling yourself into believing you are an adequate opponent. You'd be beaten in less than a second, if you tried sparring with a trained Kenshi. Oh, and did I mention that in Kendo, it will take 3-6 months before you are even allowed to do that?? THAT is because your basics MUST be VERY good. ONLY a sensei will be able to tell you if they are or not.
Trust me when I say that once you walk into a dojo, you will find you know absolutely nothing. It is arrogant and an insult to think you are good or even adequate, when all of us work hard IN A DOJO and learn from our sensei. Trust me when I tell you that you will be nit-picked over to fix any very bad habits you will certainly have and you will have to unlearn any odd things you have been doing. That is a FACT. It is a PAIN to have to relearn it all. It is far better to start in a dojo FIRST and never have to worry about relearning everything.
Oh, and your sword will not be used in Kendo, because we don't use swords.
Now. Having told you all this. IF you REALLY and TRUTHFULLY(It is not honorable to lie, especially if you ever want to do Kendo. A sensei won't tolerate that.) want to learn Kendo, tell us where you are, and we can HELP you find a dojo. If you are not serious and NEVER intend to really train in a dojo, please stop posting now. It will be useless for you.
I am really really sorry for being so frusteratred, but you don't seem to understand anything anyone is trying to tell you.
I am trying to HELP you and you should listen to what I and others here, have to say. There are many sensei on this board who will agree.
Oh, and stop using that sword. It is for your own safety.
So, please listen and stop messing around.
Kaoru
I don't know why people are talking about weight now, isn't there another forum on MSN or Yahoo for that?.
mingshi, This book seems very popular in Japan, I think the pictuers are great
I'm reading Inoue's Kendo Joutatsu book you?I have this book... and WHAT ARE YOU READING?!?
Um I always learned that Omete is Front and Ura is rear and seems to make sense when ever I hear or see it. Omete guchi (Front door) Uraguchi (Back door). And what do you think front and rear is then? Soto/Uchi? I don't want to argue about Japanese again so I'm not commenting on this furthered. You can see by the photo it just means left and right of his or her shinai.Hey... Omote/ Ura should mean outside/inside, not front and rear. In the book Hide says, from Chudan, you can either seme from the outside, or the inside...
Carrying on from that post I want to say about training at home. I like to train at home doing Suburi even Nito Subori and Subori with Bokken, Nito bokken. Doing Hiraki ashi Suburi Kirikaeshi Kote men in succession. But if you ever wanted to try some thing like I am reading about now Harai kote it is almost impossible to practice..
That is the reason you need to go to a Dojyo.
Okay I spent some dinner time doing reading on Kawakami Gensai.
What made him famous was that he assasinated Sakuma Shouzan, who was the most important figure in assisting the development of Yokohama (by opening the trading port there). This encouraged the cultural exchange of Japan to the World by importing advance technology from the West.
Apparently Kawakami Gensai sucked at kendo when he was at school. He said, "kenjutsu using shinai is just a game".
i.e. he did train in a dojo.
Samurai wannabe... JUST WHAT ARE YOU ALL READING?? Can't you all just pick up a history book instead of a Manga that is actually based on Xmen??
Mingshi (Jenny) Wan - "A thousand suburi a day keeps your bullsh!t away..."
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If you are learning kendo to learn how to street fight, I would suggest just forget about kendo. To practice kendo for fun, exercise, and to better yourself is the goals you should have in kendo, not so you can beat some kid on the street with a stick (or a katana). Not talk about how wrong that is, if he has a gun, you die anyways, so, you don't need to know how to kill people with a katana.
People like the post starter annoy me a lot sometimes, because those kind of people come around to my club all the time, and somehow look down upon us because they think kendo is too "sporty" and isn't real enough for street fighting, and somehow too easy. These people are usually those who can't even hold chudan right, ever.
Omote/Ura-guchi should be "public/private door".
The same sense is used in some koryu waza Omote/Ura waza -the latter more advance.
It's not just left and right on the photo, it is inside and outside...
Where did you learn that from? Ask your KENDO Sensei for reference...
Mingshi (Jenny) Wan - "A thousand suburi a day keeps your bullsh!t away..."
+ Mingshi's Budo Photo Journal 2005 + Other Snapshot Journals +
My kendo sensei also translates omote and ura as front and back, as do several other sensei I've talked to. Ura is also used to mean "back" in judo terminology, as in ura-nage, which is a counter throw where you basically pick the other guy up bodily and bridge back, chucking him backwards over your shoulder.Where did you learn that from? Ask your KENDO Sensei for reference...
Musha is still strangely confused on what a kamae is and what seme is though.
Our original poster is clearly just confused.
Neil Gendzwill
Saskatoon Kendo Club
Kawakami Gensai
Read this again!!!!!!!!!
Well said Kaoru !
I totally agree with you. Too bad he just dont get it *sigh*
Every once in a while, we get student like Kawakami Gensai.
As bare naked beginner, wanting to use shinken and go buys one at gun & knife show. (most likely paying $1 - 3k for WW2 casted iron, or suvenior piece.... believing 500yrs old sword lol)
These ignorant students disappear very fast.
Those are the ppl who end up attending Renaissance Fair or Anime Fest dressed like ninja or something & swinging shinken .... *sigh*
Kawakami, this quote just make me shrug.......Originally Posted by Kawakami Gensai
3)As for "the katana" no, I know the difference between a thing such as a katana and shinai. One is meant to kill and the other well, it could be used to kill, then again basically everything can, but moreso is a sporting weapon(which it is). I do not expect to learn kendo so that I can be a "katana" master. In reference of "the blade" I mean anything of the like, including a shinai. My Katana is not a decoration piece, it was actually a souvenir my friend generously gave to me. It is definitely not a toy.....and I know this. I don't go out and practice using it on things. I have practiced "Iai" and "nuki" a few times and parry and thrusting, but that's about it. I used "comfortable" not to show that I think I am some master of the katana, but the fact the weapon does not feel as foreign in my hands as others, and I am rather use to handling it carefully and not like a unexperienced trainee.
6)I never said I'm "pretty good", I know nothing. However, I think I am an adequate opponent even without taking kendo. I just showed an example of what I wanted, what part do you miss? Form guides, if I can find some, I think they exist. Some of us can learn by reading instead of a physical method, even my "reference" for my user name learned his style from reading.....and what do you know, he was one of the top three hitokiri of the boshin war and he didn't belong to a dojo....I could be really sarcastic and respond by rude comments as to why somebody of his stature had no training and became a professional assassin just by reading, wait...I did. Sorry. and fighting just doesn't show up in history as always having some guide for everybody, they were invented without one -_-;
You are the unexperienced trainee..... well not even trainee, since you never had training.
I dont care about your diet, exercise, nor spelling, but your self-centered, head (knowledge) heavy attitude toward kendo or/and katana is WRONG!
Great! Probably the best book around.
Very practical, and not so heavy as Ozawa's
(Hide sensei is still young and not hard head like many of old 8dan senseis).... too bad it is only published in japanese
...but he is planning to make educational kendo DVD soon.
You may already know this but there is questionnaire at Hide Inoue's homepage. http://www.mt-tm.com/kendo/index_e.html
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