Sword Etiquette

[Catal]

I understand the Bushido etiquette that addresses touching a katana without permission, but what is the protocol for touching a wakizashi without permission? TIA

[Khabbi]

I dont think Bushido has anything to do with it , Iaido has nothing to do with bushido , and the same rules aply to katanas , wakizashi , shinais and any other equipment

[Jamie]

Touching someones sword is all about good manners and in 'old Japan' bad manner could get your head removed from your shoulders! In or out of the dojo it's always best to wait and be invited to 'touch' someone elses sword unless you know them really well and then you must always still ask to 'touch' their sword. Hope this helps?

[Catal]

I dont think Bushido has anything to do with it , Iaido has nothing to do with bushido , and the same rules aply to katanas , wakizashi , shinais and any other equipment

Touching someones sword is all about good manners and in 'old Japan' bad manner could get your head removed from your shoulders! In or out of the dojo it's always best to wait and be invited to 'touch' someone elses sword unless you know them really well and then you must always still ask to 'touch' their sword. Hope this helps?

Well, this was in my apartment, and the someone in question is a person I train with in martial arts not related to Kendo. The person picked up and unsheathed one of my wakizashis without asking, and it irritated me greatly. Afterwards, the person placed the sword, back on the stand it had been resting, upside-down.

I didn't mention anything because this person has no knowledge of sword etiquette, and I try to be understanding of the uninitiated. Since the time I started training I was taught never to touch another person's sword, whether it was a Japanese weapon or not. I'm trying to justify a reason to say nothing about this. If the rules of Bushido apply to just the Katana, then fine. But, if those rules also apply to the wakizashi, then I need to say something.

My research has produced zilch on whether or not a violation occurs if someone makes unapproved contact with a wakizashi. All of my texts refer to the katana by name, and nothing else. I'm an old school practitioner, and though I wouldn't chop off my training partner's head, I would definitely bring this to his attention if he crossed the line; I'm just not certain that he did.

[mingshi]

Blah Blah Blah...I'm an old school practitioner, and though I wouldn't chop off my training partner's head, I would definitely bring this to his attention if he crossed the line; I'm just not certain that he did.

Well... depends on which old school you are refering to then. I guess at least in this case he'll be qualified to have his hands chopped off, if not the head.

In Bushido, it'll be a shame for a samurai to let someone else touch their swords, especially your wakizashi should be on your waist all the time. Maybe you'd better commit seppuku. YMMY

[Khabbi]

Like Miss Mingshi said , if your going by bushido you should kill your friend and then take your own life

But samurai and bushido are long gone , dead , finto , slut .

The proper etiquette is to not tuch others Iaitos , Shinais or wakizashis or bokkens. unless you ask the owner , and dont step over them

Just tell your friend not to do it again , and give up the bushido thing ,

[Catal]

Maybe you'd better commit seppuku. YMMY

Oh, be nice. Any country that falls under "the crown" should know better than to take a jab at another man's traditions.

Like Miss Mingshi said , if your going by bushido you should kill your friend and then take your own life.

I gather I should have specified "modern" Bushido. Heh... I'm guessing my previous response looks like something a psycho whose forgotten what century it is would say. No, no, no... that's not the message I meant to convey at all. What I'm trying to figure out is if I was getting upset over something that has no bearing on what one would call today's Bushido. Anyway, the last sentence in your response was most hopeful so I'll go with that. Thanks.

[meow]

Hi,

I think this is just a question of general behaviour. I would not take the golf club of someone and wave it around because I don´t know anything about golf and how to swing a golf club. Hence I would feel extremely uncomfortable doing so.

greetings

meow

[Yowai]

What the hell is this thread about? People touching your wall-hanger bar of metal? Damn samurai otaku tards.

Not allowing people to touch certain possessions because it's easily broken or dirtied is fine. Your cosplay hunk of shit does not fall under that category, even if your 'wakizashi' is an authentic antique. You're a psychiatric case.

Don't bother other people with your "Bushido code" that was learnt from some anime. Actually, stay out of public altogether.

[Kaoru]

What the hell is this thread about? People touching your wall-hanger bar of metal? Damn samurai otaku tards.

Not allowing people to touch certain possessions because it's easily broken or dirtied is fine. Your cosplay hunk of shit does not fall under that category, even if your 'wakizashi' is an authentic antique. You're a psychiatric case.

Don't bother other people with your "Bushido code" that was learnt from some anime. Actually, stay out of public altogether.

Hi Yowai-san,

Calm down...It's ok. There IS certain etiquette for touching a person's swords. Even if it is a wallhanger, and you don't know if Cartal-san does Iaido or not, so it may not be one, still it is impolite to touch it without permission. A sword is sharp, so it is just best to ask first, anyway, regardless of what it is.

I think, Yowai-san, it is better to ask questions to find out first, if the person is an otaku or not, before jumping to a conclusion like that. To call a person names without provocation is not wise.

Kaoru

[Yowai]

Why would the situation, where someone is playing Iaido, matter in this case?

[jfluh9]

I mean no offense, but no one person is ever "playing" Iaido. Studying should be the term. Sorry if I sound like a "Hai Hai".

[JSchmidt]

Why do you guys even bother responding to Yowai?..he's just trolling for attention.

[mystic_kendoka]

he's just trolling for attention.

ive been wondering, what IS the definition of a troll? kendo-world is my first board, so im quite new to the term, i know who the 'trolls' are, but i dont know what that means..?

[Catal]

I think, Yowai-san, it is better to ask questions to find out first, if the person is an otaku or not, before jumping to a conclusion like that. To call a person names without provocation is not wise.

It's okay. Such is life.

What the hell is this thread about? People touching your wall-hanger bar of metal? Damn samurai otaku tards.

Hm... Nope, not a wall-hanger, but if it makes you feel better to believe that, then by all means do so. And, if you think I'm a psychiatric case, that's fine too. Lastly, if you like to think that I watch anime and that you're a better Kendo-ga than me, I truly don't care. I hope you have fun being an anti-social nitwit, and live a long and lonely life.