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    So Im reading this thing on tsuki which suggests rotating the shinai to the right in order to maintain full control and assist in stabalising the left hand when striking from long distances.

    Anyone do this?

    Maybe its because Im left handed but if I ever rotate the shinai during tsuki its to the left.

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    I've read that. I used to do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    So Im reading this thing on tsuki which suggests rotating the shinai to the right in order to maintain full control and assist in stabalising the left hand when striking from long distances.
    Sounds like they're talking about katate-tsuki. For morote-tsuki you would not rotate the shinai to the right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    So Im reading this thing on tsuki which suggests rotating the shinai to the right in order to maintain full control and assist in stabalising the left hand when striking from long distances.

    Anyone do this?

    Maybe its because Im left handed but if I ever rotate the shinai during tsuki its to the left.
    I've actually been taught to rotate both clock-wise and counter clockwise for katate-tsuki, naturally the set up is different for the two cases. I do not "not rotate" now.

    For a not so pleasant visual, imagine blade angle and windpipe....

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    Quote Originally Posted by DCPan View Post
    I've actually been taught to rotate both clock-wise and counter clockwise for katate-tsuki, naturally the set up is different for the two cases. I do not "not rotate" now.
    Really? Counter-clockwise? Can you elaborate on the mechanics of that?
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    That's not how we do tsuki in my dojo but I have been taught that before, rotating counterclockwise some with both hands.

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    Now that I think about it I do rotate right for katate tsuki. This in paticular was refering to morote tsuki however.

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    Somewhat off-topic, and a bit purile, but amusing nonetheless:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2Ml8km62dk

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott H View Post
    Somewhat off-topic, and a bit purile, but amusing nonetheless:hI
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2Ml8km62dk
    I couldn't help from laughing even though that just happend to me from jodan about a month ago. ;-)
    The guy that hit me missed though, I've now got a scar from it that turned white.

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    I've only practiced against nito once and was told afterwards by one of the resident 6dan sensei that I really need to go for tsuki against such an opponent, or at least make it a credible threat to force their arms down so I can attack kote or men.
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    Doesn't Kendo kata already do it that way ? You have to twist it so that air can go in and kill your opponent when you tsuki ?


    Quote Originally Posted by DCPan View Post
    I've actually been taught to rotate both clock-wise and counter clockwise for katate-tsuki, naturally the set up is different for the two cases. I do not "not rotate" now.

    For a not so pleasant visual, imagine blade angle and windpipe....
    Your Men is mine....

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    Quote Originally Posted by rainmaker View Post
    Doesn't Kendo kata already do it that way ? You have to twist it so that air can go in and kill your opponent when you tsuki ?
    The explanation I had is the twist in #3 is to slip in between the ribs. Not sure if this is accurate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rainmaker View Post
    Doesn't Kendo kata already do it that way ? You have to twist it so that air can go in and kill your opponent when you tsuki ?
    Hmm...I've always had that question myself...if you are thrusting for the "right" lung in #4, rotating it counter-clock wise doesn't really make sense since it doesn't line up with the directions of the ribs...if the goal is to slide the tips between without chipping the edge.

    My earlier comment is really about angle needed to clip the windwipe.

    Quote Originally Posted by Neil Gendzwill View Post
    The explanation I had is the twist in #3 is to slip in between the ribs. Not sure if this is accurate.
    For #3, I was under the impression that the uchidachi's initial tsuki rotation was to achieve suri-komi, which displaces the opponent's center as part of the rotating slide. Since the target is suigetsu, the rotation itself shouldn't matter in terms of worrying about chipping the edge on a bone.

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