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    SHONEN
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    suicide

    ive heard about the samurai who commit suicide after dishonouring his lord.
    whats the deal with that????

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    Seppuku, (Sape-puu-kuu) the Japanese formal language term for ritual suicide (Hara-kiri (Har-rah-kee-ree) is the common language term.), was an intregal aspect of feudal Japan (1192-1868). It developed as an intregal part of the code of bushido and the discipline of the samurai warrior class. To the samurai, seppuku--whether ordered as punishment or chosen in preference to a dishonorable death at the hands of an enemy--was unquestionable demonstration of their honor, courage, loyalty, and moral character.
    When samurai were on the battlefield, they often carried out acts of hara-kiri rapidly and with very little formal preparation. But on the other occasions, particularly when it was ordered by a feudal lord, or the shogun (as was directed of Lord Asano in the Tale of the 47 Ronin. ) , seppuku or hara-kiri was a very formal ceremony, requiring certain etiquette, witnesses and considerable preparation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SHONEN
    ive heard about the samurai who commit suicide after dishonouring his lord.
    whats the deal with that????
    As a samurai, I suggest you watch "The Last Samurai" at least 3 times. Then, and only then, you might get a clue.

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    SHONEN
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    thanx for your wisdom!!!!

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    Shogun97
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    Nearly everything has been said, only:
    If a samurai has done somehting wrong he could do seppuku do clean his familly's name.....so most of them liked it more to die than to life in shame!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hai_hai
    As a samurai, I suggest you watch "The Last Samurai" at least 3 times. Then, and only then, you might get a clue.
    I've seen Last samurai two times and every time I cry ed as a baby. It's very hard for us non-japanese people to understand seppuku and the japanese tradition. In my opinoin it's a shame (don't get me wrong ) for every single person who get killed in a such way. But that's only an opinion of a non-japanese girl, who is trying to understand the bushido and japanese philosophy.

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    P.S. You only have to mention Last Samurai and I have to cry. Now, I'm crying again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity
    I've seen Last samurai two times and every time I cry ed as a baby. It's very hard for us non-japanese people to understand seppuku and the japanese tradition. In my opinoin it's a shame (don't get me wrong ) for every single person who get killed in a such way. But that's only an opinion of a non-japanese girl, who is trying to understand the bushido and japanese philosophy.

    Serenity

    P.S. You only have to mention Last Samurai and I have to cry. Now, I'm crying again!
    LAST SAMURAI lol!!
    haven't seen it jet...... is it a good film???

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    I will tell you one thing: Last Samurai ist one of the reasons why I have started training kendo. I think the move is great, worth of watching it.

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    P.S. Schöne Grüße nach Wien!

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    Inazo Nitobe

    there is a good book by Inazo Nitobe called "Bushido: The Soul of Japan" which was written around a 100 years ago. in this book he explains all the moral concepts that were important to the samurai such as loyalty, honour and also seppuku. it's a very interesting book and goes some way to explaining not just the samurai's ethics but also those of the japanese people to a degree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shogun97
    LAST SAMURAI lol!!
    haven't seen it jet...... is it a good film???
    It's a combination drama/action movie. There's another thread in the Media area of this forum that talks about it. The drama is pretty intense and it's very action packed with all the fighting scenes.

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    ShinobiKenjutsu
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    Its kind of a hollywood homage of Kurosawa smashed in with Mel GIbson's Braveheart, with an actor more suited to gunplay, and a story that is slightly less then realistic, yet still rather entertaining.

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    The Last Samurai is Dances with Wolves with people poking eachother with pointy objects. It's obviously unrealistic, but also does a good job of using japanese cinema style.

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    while it is unrealistic there are some acurate portrails in that movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SHONEN
    ive heard about the samurai who commit suicide after dishonouring his lord.
    whats the deal with that????
    if you want to see a good depiction of seppuku i recomend the Lone wolf and cub manga

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