Bouting With Your Teacher

[Kirin]

".... if anyone uses 'fight' has win/lose mindset to me"

One of the prime reasons I enjoy Kumdo is because it is not an exercise of words, but actions. When it comes to the use of words I possess great expertise. The Webster-Mirriam Dictionary defines "fight" as:

1 a : to contend in battle or physical combat; especially : to strive to overcome a person by blows or weapons
2 : to put forth a determined effort
(transitive senses)

My use of the word "fight" is not only appropriate, but highly accurate to the discussion. Your effort to denegrate the intercourse by a pejorative interpretation of my words is misplaced. What is in my mind and my heart is only mine to know.

Sorry, Old Warrior.... I do not know anything of kumdo....
and thanks for flipping pages on Webster dictionary.
And yes, term 'fight' do apply to kendo. Your definition #2 .
But if you are thinking of definition #1, you are missing the point.
Kendo is NOT battle/combat, and Kendo do not strive to overcome a person.

...... so in Kendo, we describe practice as;
打って反省　打たれて感謝 (utte hansei, utarete kansha)
and long striving kendo practice as;
守破離　(shu ha ri)

[Wout]

btw you brought it up about the aiuchi part not being good because it wouldn't score you a point and you could go on for hours doing it without scoring a point.

As for fighting with your sensei, well sometimes you get an opening, but most important is trying to make one, btw if I get an opening it's prolly because it has been given to me, but that doesn't spoil my fun.
Most important thing I think is trying to make good attack and keeping maai, not waiting for the other to do something and trying to react.

[Isak]

In the last All Japan Champs Ando-sensei lost in a beatiful Auich-men against another kendoka (dont remember his name) in the final. Totally uncanny, in normal speed they were perfectly simultaneous, on the replay though you saw clearly that Ando-senseis cut came after the other ones. The judges ,of course, saw imideatly who won (as well as the hachi dan commenting the competition)!

[Karaken]

In the last All Japan Champs Ando-sensei lost in a beatiful Auich-men against another kendoka (dont remember his name) in the final. Totally uncanny, in normal speed they were perfectly simultaneous, on the replay though you saw clearly that Ando-senseis cut came after the other ones. The judges ,of course, saw imideatly who won (as well as the hachi dan commenting the competition)!

That was Chikamoto Takuni - One of the most beautiful point I've ever witnessed.

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[kendokamax]

I dont think they saw who had hit the men first, only on slow motion can you tell

I think it was more like chikamoto had the better momentum (was more going foward than ando who more seemed like to react to the men of chikamoto)

these guys are not super human (hachi dan judging all japan) , I dont think they actually saw the hit of chikamoto hit first...

they actually made mistake during the competition (see the tsuki on satou during the second round from mori(?)) It didnt even touch the target.

[Isak]

In my book, seeing who "hit the men first" is the same as the ability to say who of the two made ippon and who didn't. Of course I don't think that hachi-dans have superhuman senses, they just know kendo way better than I do. If you can judge that Chikamoto had a better ippon than Ando just by looking at them in normal speed, that means you saw the hit as far as I am concerned. I didn't, they did. Therefore I am impressed.