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    jomon
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    Smile itto ryo

    hello

    i wish to know about fundamental , philosophy of itto ryo and how does it concerns with modern kendo

    thank you for every answers
    jomon

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    Yudansha mystic_kendoka's Avatar
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    isnt itto ryu simply 1 sworded art?

    well.. kendo normally is 1 sworded, theres ur answer..

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    Broken Kenshi nodachi's Avatar
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    I thought ittoryu was better thought of as the art of winning with one strike (although it does use only one sword). The fundamental technique is kiriotoshi (sp?) and it pops up in lots of the kata for ittoryu. Even the kata that have other movements and actions to them seem to end with kiriotoshi.

    It's basically an ai-men situation but you win the center and cut your opponent and they end up being deflected away/missing you completely. That's the fundamental idea behind it.

    I know there's more to it, but that is the gist of what I gathered from it when I studied it with little Japanese proficiency at the time.

    Others feel free to elaborate and correct me if I'm wrong. It's been awhile.

    It is really related with kendo because it reinforces the idea of keeping your center so you win situations involving ai-uchi, attacking each other simultaneously, because your center is just that strong. Although it's a little different because the techniques of ittoryu use the shape of the katana to deflect the opponents blade away as you strike through, while the feeling of this with a shinai is kind of different because it's round instead of that nice katana shape.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jomon
    i wish to know about fundamental , philosophy of itto ryo and how does it concerns with modern kendo
    It depends on which Itto Ryu you're talking about. Meik Skoss wrote an excellent article on the extant branches that appeared in Keiko Shokon. For a decent summary of Itto Ryu's influence on modern kendo, check out the post by Prof. Bodiford in a thread over at e-budo:

    Kendo and Itto Ryu
    Kent Enfield
    流水浮木

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    Keiko Shokon: Classical Warrior Traditions of Japan, volume 3

    Contents:
    Foreword
    by Quintin Chambers

    Keiko Shokon Revisited: An Introduction
    by Diane Skoss

    The Cat's Eerie Skill: A Translation of Issai Chozan's "Neko no Myojutsu"
    by Karl F. Friday

    Promise and Peril: The Potential of Following Multiple Koryu
    by Dave Lowry

    Interview with Nitta Suzuyo: Headmaster of the Toda-ha Buko-ryu
    by Liam Keeley

    Challenges in Observing the Koryu Bugei
    by Ron Beaubien

    Itto-ryu Kenjutsu: An Overview
    by Meik Skoss


    Soke: Historical Incarnations of a Title and its Entitlements
    by William M. Bodiford

    Renovation and Innovation in Tradition
    by Ellis Amdur

    The Professional Perspective: Thoughts on the Koryu Bujutsu from a United States Marine
    by George H. Bristol

    Index
    with glossary

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kent Enfield
    It depends on which Itto Ryu you're talking about. Meik Skoss wrote an excellent article on the extant branches that appeared in Keiko Shokon. For a decent summary of Itto Ryu's influence on modern kendo, check out the post by Prof. Bodiford in a thread over at e-budo:

    Kendo and Itto Ryu
    Dang...you got the sen this time!

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    jomon
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    Thumbs up

    thanks , it's very helpful

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    what is kiriotoshi

    thanks again

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    jomon
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    Smile

    thanks you
    Last edited by jomon; 29th June 2004 at 01:03 PM.

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    Broken Kenshi nodachi's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by jomon
    what is kiriotoshi

    thanks again
    Basically ai-men. Both attack men, but you actually strike your opponent and win and they don't strike you because their sword is deflected away. Just think ai men and you will have a nice, but surely simplified mental image of it.

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    Tenjo
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    Mmmmm...

    Tenbatsutekimen?

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