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    concept of indifferences...

    hopefully we can all be friends...with saying that i do not feel i bashed anyones posts....nor do i feel like i disrepected anyones threads..could someone please tell me why when " I " post that changes to the latter...someone telling me how disrespectful iam..someone is a sensei...or so and so has been doing kendo for 20 years...hey thats cool and all that but...i want all of you to know something...i practice kendo for " MY" own personal reasons...and i do not feel i have to justify my rank, race or where i trained and how i trained to anyone...i only post on here while i work so as to past the time by quicker. i figured a whole forum dedicated to kendoka,,,i wonder???? but it seems alot of people are misreading me...i just want to clear the air......you guys have your country and your dojo and your style of kendo..you also have your family your habits and your job....in other words live and let live.....iam not trying to convince you or take anybody on my road. i just wanted to see if some of the training i did was normal for everyone.....i guess not..my sensei (DR.J.YAMAMOTO) told me before i keiko'd with him the first time ..he said " just do good kendo, and have fun"...thats it nothing more...i hate to be a killjoy for some of you..but kendo is not a life or death art to me...i have a rifle and several friends with rifles(my platoon) for that. so to make a short story long...i do kendo for me...me ...and no one but me...i love the fact that everybody is into it..cool...but you can not make me see what i do not want to open my eyes to. i do what i can.but i do not bash anybody in the process.....if i were to be a hipocrit i would want to coment on the fact that half of you here probably never have or never will serve your country...but i gaurantee you will serve yourself...but i wont impose my patriatism on anyone...so dont impose your past,future on me.....my kendo is what it is mine......thank you for reading my concept on indifference...live and let live.......soldier

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    taxes serve the country greatly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SOLDIER
    thank you for reading my concept on indifference...live and let live.......soldier
    I know what you mean, i like to call it equanimity. If i remember correctly, the Japanese call it heijoshin.

    About the forum issue, i wouldn't sweat it too much. You're the "new guy on the block" and i think it's normal that people will be a little skeptical of you at first. Plus you have a strong personality on the net -i'm sure in real life too- so that can also put others off. Language can be a big factor too. All of us are guilty to various degrees of posting stuff in a huff that we later regret. Here, that's supposed to be limited to the flames section, but it will naturally spill over into the other sections. I'm now getting very wary of even posting there at all. An internet forum is a community too (although it can be a strange one) with its own customs and rules and it changes temperature too. Sometimes it's hot, sometimes it's cool as a cucumber, just like life.

    As for me, i'm glad you're around and i respect your opinions, even if i may not always agree with them. Communication is the only way to get over misunderstandings. Thanks for your thread.

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    You were posting in bold for a while and that has its effect on people. You tend not to break up your posts into paragraphs which make them more difficult to read, you must remember that we have plenty of non-native speakers here. Add to that some strong opinions and you get some push back.



    That said I don’t think most of your post have elicited flames or even much push back. You have contributed with the idea of using Murphy’s oil soap and warned me off of some cheap kendo products. Overall I value your presence, even if I don’t agree with you about self limiting my first amendment rights.



    P.S.: you never told me your MOS, I was a 76Y (supply) while I was in.

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    Soldier, the confrontational tone you take added to your relatively short experience with kendo is what puts some people off.
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    What's really amazing is that in your 'attempt' to clear the air, you promptly proceed to insult people.
    Bravo.

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    jschmidt, where did you see an insult in his post? i didn't feel offended

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    my first amendment rights.
    There's no such thing as the first amendment here. This is a private BBS, run by 2 Kiwi's who lives in Japan and not a public physical location in the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JSchmidt
    There's no such thing as the first amendment here. This is a private BBS, run by 2 Kiwi's who lives in Japan and not a public physical location in the US.

    Jakob
    My comment to him was saying valued his presence even though I did not agree with some of his opinions. If disagreeing with his opinions is an insult to him then public discourse has fallen even further than I suspected.

    As far as freedom of speech on the board I agree with what you are saying but my comment was not about on board conduct but rather this comment:

    "point is if you anit in the fight(serving your country) then do not comment on it." - SOLDIER

    I think you would agree that its perfectly reasonable for me to disagree with this.

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    so to make a short story long...i do kendo for me...me ...and no one but me...i love the fact that everybody is into it..cool...but you can not make me see what i do not want to open my eyes to.
    Sad to hear that......
    Without partner, you can not practice kendo. Without sensei, you can not practice kendo....
    One of the most important aspect of kendo is "Respect and Appreciation to Others" Hope you can understand this someday soon.
    I go to practice becasue my sensei are there every time!
    I go to practice because my senpai are there,
    and most of all, I go to practice because my kohai are there!

    Regarding your past posts, though I may not agree most, you are expressing your opinion.....thats fine by me.
    At this forum, 85% of posters are shodan or below, but there are many true sensei (especially 6-dan up) not 8kyu or 3 kyu senseis
    You are new to this forum so you may not know those sensei or active posters, but please respect others
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    Quote Originally Posted by JSchmidt
    There's no such thing as the first amendment here. This is a private BBS, run by 2 Kiwi's who lives in Japan and not a public physical location in the US.

    Jakob
    Hi minna-san,

    What is a "Kiwi" please? I thought a Kiwi was a fruit?

    Can somebody please tell me?

    Please excuse the slight thread drift.

    Kaoru

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    I'm making the post in the nicest way possible, not supposed to be a personal attack. Just so you know...

    I don't think anyone mind what you post, it's how you post. You make it sound like your way is the only right way to do things, and what everyone else say cannot be right because that is not what you have done. If you used a more suggestive tone instead of the command tone, i don't think anyone would have any problems with your posts. I don't think the me me me talk helps your case either.

    I think it's cool that you are proud being a soldier and serve your country. But, i think you're getting a little too proud that you can pass to be a snob. So what if most of us don't serve our country as a SOLDIER? We serve our countries by simply working and paying taxes, maybe volunteer and contribute to society in other ways. Being a soldier is not the only way to show your patriotism and serve your country.

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    Look matey,

    My one and only problem with you was the telling a nanadan you know better. Compared to him, you (and 90% of this forum) know NOTHING about kendo.

    Aside from this i actually thought you made some interesting posts.

    Wheter we are patriotic or not, the advice of a sensei (especially 5th dan up) should not be argued with by a 3rd kyu. Yes grade is important in this situation. You say you do kendo for you, but it is only yourself you are impededing with this attitude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaoru
    Hi minna-san,

    What is a "Kiwi" please? I thought a Kiwi was a fruit?

    Can somebody please tell me?

    Please excuse the slight thread drift.

    Kaoru
    Kiwis are also known as "New Zealanders".

    Application example: "Mate there are heaps of kiwis in Bondi!"
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    Munnin, my apologies. I've just seen that '1st Amendment/Free Speech' thing so many times when referring to a BBS, that I placed my usual reply to it, without knowing the context.


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