When was Kendo founded/made?

[Blue Bogu]

What year??? I thought that Samurai did kendo when not in real battle. Or to sharpen skills

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http://www.kendo.or.jp/english-page/...y-of-kendo.htm

[hamish]

For a more accurate history of kendo, check out the next issue of Kendo World (3.1) when our own Dr. Alex Bennett gives us a taste of what's to come in his definitive history of kendo. (to be published separately)

[Will]

March 12, 1986

[Charlie]

That your birthday, Will?

[Will]

no thats when kendo was made

[Zaphiel]

March 12, 1986

1986?....i always thought it has been 1886..................
...or did i mix it up with some other event?

[Kozushi]

The Samurai of the warring periods practiced kata but they didn't do Kendo. Kendo was invented long after the samurai ceased to be real warriors.

[Zaphiel]

The Samurai of the warring periods practiced kata but they didn't do Kendo. Kendo was invented long after the samurai ceased to be real warriors.

good to know thanks...man it would have been really embarresing if i kept to the idear.....
as we talk from old tiomes...is there someone here who knows what kind of swordfighting the itto ryu was...has been...is????
i've heard it and since then i tryed to find out but didn't make it!

[satoshi]

is there someone here who knows what kind of swordfighting the itto ryu was...has been...is????

Itto-ryu, literally translated "one sword style", is a general term that refers to all sword schools based on the technique of one sword, as opposed to, say, nito-ryu (two-sword style). So the style of swordfighting varies.

[GMason]

I disagree whist it can can be literally translated "one sword style", Itto Ryu was founded by Ito Kagehisa (1560-1653). Who later changed his name to Ito Ittosai (one sword technique man).

The is a lot on info on the ryu ha if you search the net.

[Zaphiel]

Itto-ryu, literally translated "one sword style", is a general term that refers to all sword schools based on the technique of one sword, as opposed to, say, nito-ryu (two-sword style). So the style of swordfighting varies.

well year nito-ichryu(=two swors-one school) that's okay but if itto is one sword than what is the shinto munen-ryu?
i thought that would be the school with the one sword? or is it just a sub-school of itto?

[Mr.Tvola]

Kendo, as we know today was found around 1910-12, where the term "Kendo" was estabilished and Kendo kata as well as other things (equipment) were unified . However practicing sword skills using shinai and bogu is older, say from the end of 18th century.

So I would say modern Kendo was found in late 18th century and is based on several old Kenjutsu schools and mainly influenced by Itto Rju (I have read somewhere style named "nakanishi itto rju" (itto rju school of Chuta Nakanishi))

But I believe the upcoming article in the Kendo World mag will provide far better answer

[GMason]

Hi,

Itto Ryu is a Sword style ..... i.e a kenjutsu school who's founder was call Ito Ittosai. This is in the wider world of Koryu (not Kendo). With in Kendo some people will call a Jodan/Chudan/Gedan fencer an Itto ryu fencer, whilst they will call a Nito Fencer a Nito Ryu fencer.

Within the world of Koryu. I guess this is incorrect, as there is a Ryu ha called Itto Ryu. But within Kendo circles I guess that it is correct in a literal translation.

With regards to the Nito question, there are better an wiser people on this board than me with regards to this BUT......

Nito Ryu...... is as far as I know..... is a Kendo only term...... people far to frequently say nito-Ryu, when meaning Hyo ho Niten Ichi Ryu, which are two totally different things.... one being a Kendo term for a fencer who fences with two Shinai, with little or no link to the Hyo Ho Niten Ichi Ryu that most people link it to, and the other (Niten Ichi Ryu) being the Kenjutsu school which has lineage going back many years.

This seems to be a point of some confussion

Sorry to go on

[Zaphiel]

year ok...but again...what is than shinto munen ryu???