hehe thanks i will try to find a dojo as soon as possible..right now it is quite difficult for me to devote the time to it as im still in high school and it is my last year as well so all the energy has to be focus on my exams for uni.Originally Posted by shred_lord
but however i do love japanese swordsmanship.
Hm this thread though i havent read it all has inspired me to take apart my "katana" which is a wallhanger. i suspected it wasnt good for much since the blade seemed slighly loose, so this is why and what it looks like..:
http://www.deviantart.com/view/20777739/
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Nice dude! Damn 100 euros for that crap, you got ripped off bad, lucky you didn't get hurt.
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I would rather pay the extra 400 dollars to get the assurance that when im practicint the blade doesnt cut my face off (or the 50 dollars for the blue air dry clay)
Greetings y'all,
I just wanted to clear up a little misconception here regarding the gentleman that stabbed himself with his katana. In conversing with the fellow, it turns out that he has never had formal training in any Japanese sword art. He was teaching himself out of a book. Of course, with no sensei to tell him whether what he was doing was correct or not, he was learning incorrectly. He was trying to perform a noto that is peculiar to Tenshin Shoden Katori Shinto ryu (and is quite difficult really) with a sharp sword. he said that it was completely through his arm before he even realized he had stabbed himself. It points out the truly destructive power of a sharp sword, and why people like Kaoru get upset about people playing with swords with no instructor.
P.S. I've had really good results by twirling red and blue air-dry clay together like a candy cane. Best qualities of both types!
Paul Smith
... there is nothing so satisfying to the spirit, so defining of our character, than giving our all to a difficult task.
WHY DID YOU MENTION THAT, THAT IS ONLY FOR THE MASTERS OF WALLHANGERS, YOU NEED TO BECOME A MEMBER OF THE M.O.W IN ORDER TO LEARN ABOUT THAT.... How dare you. I am DISAPPOINTED. You are now BANNED from the M.O.W. and your membership fees will not be repaid, you will also have to keep paying monthly dues.
Be ashamed...
I wouldn't recommend a Wind & Thunder to a beginner. Extremely heavy, very hard to swing. I bought one when they first came out, nice furniture, but way too heavy for me (5'9", 200 pounds). As they say on SwordForum, ask your sensei before purchasing a sword.
Jim Swanson
Been making swords about ten years now, and I can tell you there is a reason for this cheap tang crap. Money, pure and simple. I am well aware that those here don't pay attention if they don't like you, ah well, can only hope some of you don't care about such things. Anyhow, 440 is a more expensive stainless. They get this metal in long sheets, and either laser cut it or just put it through a machine which in just a few seconds mills away the excess. Often the blades are not even heat treated. This process is also why you see the rat tail so high up and close to the blade itself. They use as little of the good steel as possible, since putting even a small tang on, say 4 or 5 inches, means they would have one less sword every 5 or 6 blades, it'a about maximizing material. It is also very dangerous. This sword shown has a wholesale price of around 9 bucks, hope the buyer did not pay more then 35 for that piece of junk, likely made in pakistan or china. This is the cheapest type of sword. Indeed, be careful about what you buy, full tang is best, I'd be surprised if that piece of junk was really 440, certainly not 440C. Either way, thats a rat tail for you all. The cheap screw on the end is a dead giveaway, never buy a Samurai sword with a screw, pins only. Many have a hidden screw under the pommel piece, and a pin just for looks. Be careful with these no question.
So in your opinion 440 is an acceptable steel for swords as long as it has a full tang?
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Yeah. This means he started when he was 5!Been making swords about ten years now, ...
Paul Smith
... there is nothing so satisfying to the spirit, so defining of our character, than giving our all to a difficult task.
There should be a sign outside of "swordteacher99"´s cage: "Please do not feed the troll".
I am tempted to do it as well, but then I think about his possible replies:
or perhaps
or even worse!! He could go all nonsensical like:
God forbids!!
We know he´s a troll, he knows we´re all a bunch of ignorant losers who don´t know jack about anything... so why bother each other? Live and let die... just don´t stain our tatami with your blood please! Thank you, good-bye now!
Edit: aawww maaan! http://img432.imageshack.us/img432/4...otwords3no.gif is one hell of a smiley. Not seeing it makes it lose all fun!
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True victory is victory over oneself
Oh man, I want that smily!! That's awesome! Too bad it won't work here right now. Wonder why it won't work. I'd have yet another smily to use if your smily worked. Where'd you get it?
Ok... back to topic. Sorry!
Kaoru
... whilst wall hangers are the worst of the JSA world it is always good to remember that bad technique is as dangerous as a 440 stainless steel sword.
A poor chiburi can cause stress fractures on the nakago or munemachi on a good iaito, this has happened at our dojo causing an alloy blade to fly off and land in the floor. So please dont think that a non-wallhanger equals safety.
Train hard and be safe
Nastey
That one from united cutlery actualy had a reasonable "half tang", but not for something youlld want to cut with.
The "rat tang thats welded on..........thats not a rat tail tang. There is a difference between a welded and a rat tail tang.
We set down with these guys http://www.starfireswords.com/web-pa...pages/home.php (actualy one of there distributors), who make some of the highest quality western style swords and polearms you can buy(i have on of them.......they are amazingly well constructed....and there designed to be used in practice not these semi sharpend POS's most of the Larp groups run around with) and took apart some of the realy bad quality stuff. Somewere i have a picture of a katana that even more poorly made than the ones in that thread. One was a screw welded to the end of the blade and screwed driectly into the wood(wich was cracked meaning they didnt even pre-drill). Some of the "battle ready" stuff we messed with was even worse.....and whats disturbing some of the LARP groups actualy swing at each other with them....
ANd before anyone says anything about starfire.....i have no idea how accurate the "katana" they sell is. It is purely a show piece(unless you use a blunted blade...i dont do iaido, i just know a bit about swords and swordmaking so i stcuk my nose in here), and the "sharp" side of the blade is about an eigth inch thick.If your looking for western swords for combat reenactment....theyre about the best ive seen. Not the most historicaly accurat but theyre heavy, good quality and hand forged..........
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Not to rip on Starfire at all mind, but it's not especially accurate. Aside from having a curve to the blade and a round crossguard, it doesn't look much like a katana at all. The blade geometry is pretty clearly wrong, but the price looks good. I wouldn't use it for Iai practice, especially not with that handle.
Charles Mahan
Iaido -
Breaking bad habits
and building new ones.
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