Why a wallhanger is extremely dangerous, shown in photos. Please READ.

**Kaoru** · 26th April 2005, 04:05 PM

Hi Minna-san,

I was just looking for information on Sword Forum International and I ran across this extremely informative thread that shows in graphic detail using photos, how a wallhanger(The dangerous 440-steel swords and the like.) is made.

Would you please sticky this to the top of the forum Hamish-san? This really is a MUST READ for anyone.

Here is the link to the thread:

http://forums.swordforum.com/showthr...=second+mekugi

Thank you!

Kaoru

**Kaoru** · 26th April 2005, 04:18 PM

Oh yes, I forgot to say that I have said many times these swords are dangerous. So have many others here. This is visual proof of this fact.

Kaoru

**Reikon** · 26th April 2005, 07:36 PM

Someone needs to write a "READ THIS OR DIE" FAQ....

**hamish** · 26th April 2005, 08:46 PM

I think the thread pretty much speaks for itself....Only use proper practice blades!!!!!!!!

**Bailemor** · 26th April 2005, 09:42 PM

Hi Hamish

I saw this discussion on another site and thought that this coudl be added as a sticky on your site:
http://forums.swordforum.com/showthr...threadid=50219

This show how dangerour swords are, even in expert hands. Word of warning - the photos are graphic and show how much damage can be done with a loss of concentration.

David

**Slade** · 26th April 2005, 09:54 PM

Ahhhh...Jenn's SLO thread.... Good reading with that one.

**GoldenShinai** · 29th April 2005, 02:50 AM

Originally Posted by Kaoru

Hi Minna-san,

I was just looking for information on Sword Forum International and I ran across this extremely informative thread that shows in graphic detail using photos, how a wallhanger(The dangerous 440-steel swords and the like.) is made.

Would you please sticky this to the top of the forum Hamish-san? This really is a MUST READ for anyone.

Here is the link to the thread:

http://forums.swordforum.com/showthr...=second+mekugi

Thank you!

Kaoru

O_O wow. i own that wallhanger. and i hit things with it. i never would have thought that it was such a peice of crap. I bought it for $10 U.S., but i didnt think iit was that bad! the tang was welded on!

**Optomitrist** · 29th April 2005, 03:12 AM

my first sword was like the first he disasembled. It brok one day while I was carrying it in the scabbard. It was very high quality.

http://forums.swordforum.com/showth...?threadid=50219

I dont understand. How could he have not noticed that he scewered himself that badly? It went all the way through and through to the back of his upper arm!?!?! That really sucks. I hope everything turns out alright.

**Hank** · 29th April 2005, 03:37 AM

Originally Posted by Optomitrist

I dont understand. How could he have not noticed that he scewered himself that badly? It went all the way through and through to the back of his upper arm!?!?! That really sucks. I hope everything turns out alright.

Yeah, it seems like even an iaito would have done some damage in that situation. They said no nerve damage - amazing. He's a lucky guy.

Hank.

**Kaoru** · 29th April 2005, 04:24 AM

Originally Posted by GoldenShinai

O_O wow. i own that wallhanger. and i hit things with it. i never would have thought that it was such a peice of crap. I bought it for $10 U.S., but i didnt think iit was that bad! the tang was welded on!

Please don't use it anymore please!!! You can DIE if it should break, if you keep using it. Ok?

Kaoru

**Kaoru** · 29th April 2005, 04:32 AM

Originally Posted by Optomitrist

my first sword was like the first he disasembled. It brok one day while I was carrying it in the scabbard. It was very high quality.

No it wasn't. Not for using, it wasn't high quality. If it was made like the first one disassembled, it isn't a sword meant for use, and was only meant for the wall.
There is high quality(Meaning just a very nice display piece that doesn't look like cosplay gear, but still is extremely unsafe and not made properly for use.), meant for a WALL, and high quality(Meaning a sword that is made properly, intended for training.) meant for USE. BIG difference!

No offense.... I'm glad it didn't break and injure you when you used it.(If you did, that is.)

Kaoru

**ZealUK** · 29th April 2005, 04:35 AM

Originally Posted by Kaoru

Please don't use it anymore please!!! You can DIE if it should break, if you keep using it. Ok?

Kaoru

You can DIE? Don't you think that's a bit extreme? No need to scaremonger.

I think the guy who put the sword through his arm was using a shinken if I remember correctly.

**Optomitrist** · 29th April 2005, 04:50 AM

Originally Posted by Kaoru

No it wasn't. Not for using, it wasn't high quality. If it was made like the first one disassembled, it isn't a sword meant for use, and was only meant for the wall.
There is high quality(Meaning just a very nice display piece that doesn't look like cosplay gear, but still is extremely unsafe and not made properly for use.), meant for a WALL, and high quality(Meaning a sword that is made properly, intended for training.) meant for USE. BIG difference!

No offense.... I'm glad it didn't break and injure you when you used it.(If you did, that is.)

Kaoru

OMG I was being sarcastic. haha

**Ric Flinn** · 29th April 2005, 05:01 AM

Originally Posted by ZealUK

You can DIE? Don't you think that's a bit extreme? No need to scaremonger.

I think the guy who put the sword through his arm was using a shinken if I remember correctly.

Yep, and he would have died has his wife not been there to help control the bleeding. Freak, life-taking accidents happen all the time, even to experienced people. This incident was probably very close to being such a case. It could have happend exactly the same even if he was using an iaito - all iaito I've seen have very sharp tips on them, even if ho sharp edge (gods know I used to cut myself on it more than I care to admit).

**Kaoru** · 29th April 2005, 05:06 AM

Originally Posted by ZealUK

You can DIE? Don't you think that's a bit extreme? No need to scaremonger.

I think the guy who put the sword through his arm was using a shinken if I remember correctly.

Well, I did read about one person, a sensei, whose blade came out from the tsuka and it flew across the room killing a kid who was watching him practice kata from a safe distance. It stabbed him right in the chest. A blade can fly very far. So, if not himself, how about another friend hanging out with him? Wallhangers have loads more potential for this happening than a real pactice sword thanks to how the tang is often put in. They often have no mekugi pin.

I'll have to find the site with all the sword accidents to post. And, remember that HSN video with the guy who tapped the wallhanger sword on the table and it broke in two and the blade stabbed him? He got very lucky it wasn't fatal.

I just want him to not get hurt. Walhangers aren't safe for use.

Kaoru