long hair and tenegui

[Confound]

I'm having problems with my tenegui. It always loosens partway through practice, sometimes three or four times. The problem seems to be my hair, which isn't overly long, but putting the tied up hair inside the tenegui seems to weigh it down, and lead to the loosening. Yet, when I tie the tenegui with my hair outside, it still, mysteriously loosens.

This may seem frivolous, but it's really annoying to waste practice time fixing a tenegui. So, people with long hair, what do you do with it when putting on your tenegui?

c

[Critical_Bill]

hmm, well, everyone i know with long hair wears it in ponytails, and that seems to work.
I have no idea how comfy this is though, since i cut my ponytail in the early 90s (thank gawd)

[mingshi]

mmm... I only know the without-knot faster tying method. So far it hasn't caused much trouble.

1) Use the Tenegui to pull the hair around your forehead back, to keep a clear vision...
2) Make sure the 2 flaps that go around your ears are secured...
3) You know, the last flap in front of your face at the end is of the shape of a triangle. You can try pulling its bottom folds at the 2 base corners to the sides horizontally.
4) Finished piece should end up showing your forehead. Be careful not to move it and loosen it up when you put your Men on.

There is another tying method called "swirl-around-the-head-and-make-a-knot". It seems even more secured, but it takes longer to do.

Anyone else?

[alexpollijr]

You might try the alternate way of tying the tenugui that Mingshi mentioned. It's a little less practical (read: slower) but it's more tight and covers a wider area on the head.

You can check it out here
http://www6.big.or.jp/~budogu/manu/topm.htm

[Atama]

Confound
I had the same problem with my tenugui until tried the method were you make a little cap out of the tenugui as oppose to the wrappin around the head way. It worked a treat for as i have my hair tied back too.

[Paburo]

my hair is not too long so i just tie it in a topknot and wrap the tenugi in the style I according to this image:

http://kenwakai.org/tenugi.gif

i wrap it low, in the front at my eyebrow level, and in the back just above the neck. it doesn't move at all during training.

recently i saw some girl with longer hair use her tenugi in the style III. she had her pony tail low. she took literally less than a second to put on/off her tenugi this way.

try different forms til you find the comfiest for you. hope it helps.

[scbang]

I want to do style 1 because it covers my ear and also Miyazaki does it :-) But I can only do style 2 because my Tengui is not big enough for style 1. Is my head too big ( I don't think this to be true ) or are there bigger tenguis out there for style 1?

I also noticed many ladies use style 3 but It does not give me tight enough fit.

SC

[Neil Gendzwill]

Originally posted by scbang
I want to do style 1 because it covers my ear and also Miyazaki does it :-) But I can only do style 2 because my Tengui is not big enough for style 1. Is my head too big ( I don't think this to be true ) or are there bigger tenguis out there for style 1?

I also noticed many ladies use style 3 but It does not give me tight enough fit.

SC

I have a large head (62 cm hat size) and style 1 works well for me. There are bigger and smaller tenugui.

[scbang]

There are bigger and smaller tenugui.

How come I don't see that designation in any of the websites selling them?

SC

[Neil Gendzwill]

I dunno, I've never bought a tenugui in my life. I just aquire them through various sources (visitors, tournaments, etc).

[scbang]

Me too - but they are all same small sizes so I was checking to see anyone carries big one but I din't see it..

I'm assuming you use large ones for style 1. How do you use small ones? Can you do style 1 with smaller ones?

SC

[Confound]

I'm going to try the third style (party hat), for a while. It covers the ears a little. With the incompetence of the school kendou team, it might be safer for my eardrums to have that little bit of extra space.

c

[Neil Gendzwill]

Originally posted by scbang
I'm assuming you use large ones for style 1. How do you use small ones? Can you do style 1 with smaller ones?

Most of the ones I have are large enough. I've had one or two that were too small but the standard size is OK. Perhaps you're doing something wrong. If your tenugui loosens up or moves around when you put on the men, slightly dampening it before class will help it stay put.

[scbang]

Neil, as I understand, Style 1 calls for tying two corners in front of you after you wrap your head. None of my tengui is long enough to be tied. Oh well.. SC

[alexpollijr]

Usually japanese tenugui are bigger and fit nicely for style 1.
I too have smaller and bigger tenugui; small ones were either gifts or made in Brazil or Korea.

I have one that was handed me by the ZNKR director once that is pretty big, and a couple tozando's one that do the trick.

But I'm a style 2 adept so, whatever.