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    Gratest samurai

    who in your opinion was the gratest samurai during the gempei(i was not sure how to spell) wars.

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    haha funny funny but that isnt even close in the last samurai that was during the meiji era looks like you know your history

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    i dont hink you will get very much respect talking about that movie eaither

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    umm, you spelt Greatest Wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mononokifool
    i dont hink you will get very much respect talking about that movie eaither
    I don't see why he would get respect talking about any movie, first of all; unless he made the movie and it was well done. I'm also not sure if you meant that to mean 'The Last Samurai' wasn't a good movie of something, but it was actually the most accurate portrayal of samurai in a movie for some time, in my opinion. So I think mentioning that movie is fine. Besides, I'm pretty sure he was joking around.

    Anyways, that was just my two cents, I didn't mean any disrespect incase you were offended by my comment. ^^;

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    wow, 6 posts allready and musashi hasn't been mentioned yet^^
    Seriously though, I don't know, I know very little of actual japanese history...

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    musashi was one of the greatest samurai there ever was. i couldnt say he was the greatest because everyone has opinions but he was certainly one of the best. Tsukahara Bokuden was also one of the best swordsman of the sengoku period.
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    no disrespect but the last samurai does not represent that time very good because if you know anything about that time you would know that the opposing samurai hated foreigners and would never have let one join there side. i mean the foreigners were the ones trying to change the way japan was being ruled...but anywase i dont know if this samurai was in the gempei wars but of course oda nobunaga or uesugi kenshin

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    Kato Kiyomasa. Establised his reputation at the battle of Shizugatake and was know as one of the Seven Spears of Shizugatake. His motto and war cry was "Hail to the Lotus of the Divine Law." Kato Kiyomasa was commander of the Japanese Second Division during Hideyoshi's invasion of Korea, also known as the Imjin Waeran in Korea (1592-1598). He also was known from time to time to take up his spear while on campaign and go hunting for tigers! He is sometimes pictured with tiger skins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mononokifool
    no disrespect but the last samurai does not represent that time very good because if you know anything about that time you would know that the opposing samurai hated foreigners and would never have let one join there side. i mean the foreigners were the ones trying to change the way japan was being ruled...but anywase i dont know if this samurai was in the gempei wars but of course oda nobunaga or uesugi kenshin
    I understand that, but like I said, in my opinion, it most accurately portrays samurai, as in the devotion and passion to and for budo. Especially for something that was meant more to be a cinematic feature rather than a documentary; it was based on historical events, though. Also, though this is somewhat off the topic I was explaining my perspective on, I'm not sure how just you are in saying they would "never have let one join their side." I mean I can agree with that on many levels, but if the situation shown in that movie was infact the true happening, then I could see the samurai using every available resource to up their odds of doing just what you mentioned, stopping the rule of Japan from changing.

    But to stop this topic from becoming one of those "Kendoka vs. European Fencer"-like threads, I'll end my commenting there; nothing wrong with a good conversation, but it seems somewhat pointless to keep going when opinions are what is really being talked about, since it's really nothing that can be proven right or wrong.
    Last edited by Pan-Chan; 18th June 2005 at 03:59 PM.

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    Grating Samurai

    Yeah, he grated a bit, didn't he?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mononokifool
    who in your opinion was the gratest samurai during the gempei(i was not sure how to spell) wars.
    For that period, I'd have to say Nasu no Yoichi Munetaka.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miles
    Kato Kiyomasa.
    My vote as well.
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    ok here is another question what time peroid produced the best samurai. was it during the wars when they could test there skills in battle or during peactime whent they had there whole lifes to perfect the art of the sword.

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