Page 1 of 13 12311 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 195

Thread: Hiten-Mitsurugi Ryu

  1. #1
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Alabama
    Posts
    7
    Country: United_States

    Question Hiten-Mitsurugi Ryu

    Is Hiten-Mitsurugi Ryu an actual style? If it is, then is it still taught? (Yes, I'm one of those "Rurouni Kenshin" manga fans. Please don't shun me!)

  2. #2

  3. #3
    I WILL eat your Ramen! GoldenShinai's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    Florida
    Posts
    312
    Country: United_States
    Theres been like 897234978234078352384735733479 threads on this topic.
    Why are you worrying about
    You-Know-Who?
    You should be worrying about
    U-No-Poo!
    The constipation sensation
    That's gripping the nation!

  4. #4
    Yudansha
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Maryland
    Posts
    118
    Country: United_States
    Found this Article online. Looks intresting...

    http://articles.theotaku.com/view.ph...etrieve&id=481


    Rurouni Kenshin is a popular historical fiction anime, but many of the characters and events really existed. The whole time period, the Meiji Era, were in the mid 1800’s after the revolution overthrowing the old system of society. Western cultures began to seep in much to the dismay of some traditionalists. Also, many characters have existed or were based on historical figures although their true story might be a little different.

    Probably the character in Rurouni Kenshin that is most accurately portrayed compared to his historical counterpart is Hajime Saitou. He lived from 1844-1915 and was the captain of the third unit of the Shinsengumi, just like in the show. It was reported he was a skilled swordsman excelling in a left handed thrust. This however was not the Gatotsu. After the chaos of the revolution, he joined the police force under the alias of Goro Fujita. This alias and occupation is mirrored in the anime as well. Because of his sword skill he was also given special permission to wield a katana versus the sabers the police force used. The early history of his life is slightly distorted, it was never confirmed if he was a son of a ronin or he if had killed someone (possibly by accident) and then joined the army in Kyoto. It is said he was introverted and mysterious, even dubbed a sort of executioner since he assassinated many corrupt members of his own group and the police force.

    The protaganist, Himura Kenshin/Shinta is a shadow of Gensai Kawakami. Kawakami was an assassin for the Choushu clan during the revolution and was said to be the most terrible of the 4 great assassins. There were mentions on how he could have been mistaken as a girl at first glance, but descriptions of his personality said otherwise. He was cold and calculating, famous for assassinating Kuma Shozan in broad daylight. His sword style was Furanui of kenjutsu, which used lightning fast movements like the Hiten Mitsurugi style. Gensai Kawakami met his end in 1871when his ideals clashed with the Meiji government and he was executed on false charges.

    Another character with a prominent historical background is Makoto Shishio, or Serizawa Kamo. He was educated in swordsmanship since he was young and generally carried a bad name. In 1860 he joined the Tengo-to and rose to be a main member. The Tengu-to was an extremist group against foreigners, they followed the ideal ‘sonno joi’ which meant ‘revere the emperor and expel the foreigners’. However, the group was disbanded and jailed when power ties shifted. Later on, Kamo was released from jail and then went on to become one of the founders for the Shinsengumi, the group who opposed the revolutionists. He was known for his bad temper and cruel punishments. One time while he was part of the Tengu-to he found out 3 lower members had broken the rules and personally beheaded them. This cruelty was manifested in Shishio’s actions and personality.

    Last but not least, is the historical double of Sojirou Seta, one of Shishio’s men. Souji Okita was a kenjutsu prodigy, becoming an instructor at age 18. He was considered one of the strongest of the Shinsengumi along with Hajime Saito and Nagakura Shinpachi. He died of tuberculosis at age 25 in a hospital in Edo. The anime doesn’t quite do his historical counterpart justice, as the protagonist of Peacemaker Kurogane there is far more detail there.

    So there you have it. It’s fascinating to see the historical counterparts of characters in Rurouni Kenshin. The contrasts between the fictional face and the person who really existed make excellent food for thought.

  5. #5
    Yudansha
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Maryland
    Posts
    118
    Country: United_States
    A liner note to that is that that article was a bit off in that Okita was portrayed as himself in the OVA trust and betrayel

  6. #6
    My shinai is bended... samurai999's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2002
    Location
    Union City/San Diego, CA USA
    Posts
    1,922
    Country: United States
    noooooooo. the question from hell arises again.

    Tim
    Fall down 7 times, get up 8.
    -Some old dude.

    You have to trust in something--your gut, destiny, life, karma, whatever--because believing that the dots will connect down the road will give you the confidence to follow your heart, even when it leads you off the well- worn path, and that will make all the difference.
    -Steve Jobs, Stanford c/o 2005 commencement ceremony.

  7. #7
    #1 Yahiko Fan Charuzu's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Location
    Syracuse, NY
    Posts
    545
    Country: United_States

    Talking

    Quote Originally Posted by Rurouni_Richard
    Please don't shun me!)
    Don't worry! Also of us here got into this becuse of that series! Besides we are all family here! ^o^
    "If first you don't suceed ... deny you ever tried"
    -Morgan, from TechTV's "The ScreenSavers"

    Charlie Poltenson
    OCC Kendo Club (Needs to join the AUSKF still, also needs gear)


  8. #8
    Adult Kyu fo' Life! T.Lee's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Posts
    673
    Country: United_States
    you must gather your chakra first, then form the correct signs in sequence.... oh wait, sorry wrong series.

  9. #9
    不動心 ShinKenshi's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts
    1,825
    Country: United States
    Quote Originally Posted by Rurouni_Richard
    Is Hiten-Mitsurugi Ryu an actual style? If it is, then is it still taught? (Yes, I'm one of those "Rurouni Kenshin" manga fans. Please don't shun me!)
    Just a friendly warning that you're probably going to get a lot of flak for this. You have no idea how many people have asked this question. My recommendation is to make a search for Hittenmitsugi-ryu, read them, and just use the search in general to see if your question has already been answered. Don't take any comments negatively, it's just we've had a few too many Otaku ask us this before.
    David Chin
    Minnehaha Kendo Dojo
    剣道は礼に始まり、礼に終わる。
    My Budo Blog

  10. #10
    The Poor Boy Show Off kendonewbie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Somewhere in the middle of nowhere
    Posts
    267
    Country: United_States
    i doubt that hiten mitsurigui is an actual style. The manga (or anime) has very, very loose historical ties in terms of characters, and some of the moves are based off real (just extremely exaggerated), but thats as far as it goes. Even if it ever did exist, i seriously doubt that it would be taught today.
    http://www.nocallsplease.com/images/warning_icon.gifWARNING: The following post was made by someone who has just started practicing kendo. Please disregard any poor advice that was given. Please also feel free to politley condradict, rudely contradict, flame, or make sarcastic remarks in response to what the starving, sleep deprived person posted. That being said...
    http://www.funhousetrading.com/New_Folder2/016.gifhttp://re2.mm-b1.yimg.com/image/472360057-Brad H.

  11. #11
    Yudansha
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Maryland
    Posts
    118
    Country: United_States
    in short the Hiten-Mitsurugi Ryu as well as Kenshin are both Fictional representations of Gensai Kawakami and his own style Furanui Kenjutsu which is said to have died when he was executed by the Meiji Governmant. Nothing supernatural or godlike about it, simply a very fast hitokiri style which were common in that age.

  12. #12
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    socal
    Posts
    19
    Country: United_States
    There is a Hiten Mitsurugi style! Ive seen someone move so fast and jump so high that he can stand on your sword without you knowing it before you can say MEN! He says he trains by jumping over mountains and racing automobiles. Gosh I wish i knew how to fight like him.

  13. #13
    on a new path Mr. Donigan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Salida, CO
    Posts
    436
    Country: United States
    Quote Originally Posted by samurai999
    noooooooo. the question from hell arises again.

    Tim
    Actually the question from hell for me is "do we play or practice kendo?" Gets my goat everytime, yet everytime I feel the need to reply!
    I love the smell of shinai in the morning!

  14. #14
    The Poor Boy Show Off kendonewbie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Somewhere in the middle of nowhere
    Posts
    267
    Country: United_States
    i wonder how many people started kendo to "learn the secrets of hiten mitsurigi"...no offense intended...just a rhetorical question
    http://www.nocallsplease.com/images/warning_icon.gifWARNING: The following post was made by someone who has just started practicing kendo. Please disregard any poor advice that was given. Please also feel free to politley condradict, rudely contradict, flame, or make sarcastic remarks in response to what the starving, sleep deprived person posted. That being said...
    http://www.funhousetrading.com/New_Folder2/016.gifhttp://re2.mm-b1.yimg.com/image/472360057-Brad H.

  15. #15
    REDЯUM ScottUK's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    West Midlands, Anglo-Saxon Land
    Posts
    7,741
    Country: England
    You know what? I'm gonna start teaching Hiten Mitsurugi Ryu at my secret dojo. There is so many people who wanna learn it, I could make a sodding fortune. Anyone got any tapes they can lend me so I can formulate a curriculum?
    Scott
    www.heijoshin.co.uk
    兵法二天一流剣術 - 無双直伝英信流居合
    Hyoho Niten Ichi Ryu Kenjutsu - Muso Jikiden Eishin Ryu Iai

    "Scott is the Angel of Death" - Meng

    "If those of us who practice martial arts are unwilling to police ourselves, sooner or later, someone will do it for us. I am not sure we would like the results" - docphil

    "I need a 100% LEGIT IKF approved Kendo wife. Preferably sandan or higher, fatties welcome" - Kapplow

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •