Ninjitsu, honorable or not?

[TheChessQueen]

So this subject has come up every once in a while with students at the dojo and newer martial arts practitioners. Is ninjitsu a true martial art? I have been told that it is extremely secretive and therefore if I ever do meet a practitioner I probably would not know. But aren't the martial arts guided by the martial way and bushido? Ninjitsu, to my limited knowledge, seems to be about assasination and stealth but also developing the mind and body like other martial arts. However, I cannot recall being taught or reading about assasinations being part of the martial way. If anything it is against it as it is essentially murder and, once again from my limited knowledge, murder without allowing the victim to fight back. This does not seem to follow bushido. Perhaps I am wrong. Any opinions and/or facts to illuminate the subject?

[kendonewbie]

I've read a little about ninjitsu (out of boredom with nothing to do/ so i could rip apart ninja trolls in forums). As far as i can tell
1. Ninja were mecenary spies and assasions.
2. They were considered to be the lowest, most dishonorable group of people in feudal japan. And for good reason. Stabbing people in the back/killing people in there sleep/killing women and children if told to do so/espionage in general was considered to be dishonorable.
3. Traditional ninjitsu is an assasionation art, not a martial art.
4. Ninjitsu is remarably similar to the Navy SEAL training. Unarmed and armed combat is incorperated into the training, but a majority of the training revolves around avoiding confrontation and detection.

To answer your questions..no, ninjitsu is not a true martial art. It shouldn't even be considered one. And no, there was no honor in ninjitsu. All of the duties that a ninja would preform were considered to be dishonorable. If you ever meet someone who says they know ninjitsu, don't believe them. As far as i can tell, true ninjitsu dissappeared a long time ago. It got started up again in the 1980's after the movies.... There are a few people today who try to teach ninjitsu, but 99.99999999999% of the time, they're fakes.

[Flylkorean]

I've read a little about ninjitsu (out of boredom with nothing to do/ so i could rip apart ninja trolls in forums). As far as i can tell
1. Ninja were mecenary spies and assasions.
2. They were considered to be the lowest, most dishonorable group of people in feudal japan. And for good reason. Stabbing people in the back/killing people in there sleep/killing women and children if told to do so/espionage in general was considered to be dishonorable.
3. Traditional ninjitsu is an assasionation art, not a martial art.
4. Ninjitsu is remarably similar to the Navy SEAL training. Unarmed and armed combat is incorperated into the training, but a majority of the training revolves around avoiding confrontation and detection.

To answer your questions..no, ninjitsu is not a true martial art. It shouldn't even be considered one. And no, there was no honor in ninjitsu. All of the duties that a ninja would preform were considered to be dishonorable. If you ever meet someone who says they know ninjitsu, don't believe them. As far as i can tell, true ninjitsu dissappeared a long time ago. It got started up again in the 1980's after the movies.... There are a few people today who try to teach ninjitsu, but 99.99999999999% of the time, they're fakes.

Ninjitsu did not disappear. It still exists. It is considered a martial art. Very few dojos teach Ninjitsu in Japan, and they are authentic, meaning that they train just as they did in feudal Japan. Why only a few dojo's exist in Japan that teach Ninjitsu? Kendonewbie just answered it.

[kendonewbie]

Ah..thank you for correcting me.

[drizzt]

ninjitsu was thought of in feudal japan much as the sniper is thought of today.

[Gregory]

ninjitsu was thought of in feudal japan much as the sniper is thought of today.

Yeah, they had movies about ninjas, and video games about ninjas, all that fun stuff.

Ninjas used to hunt deer too

[Charuzu]

I've read a little about ninjitsu (out of boredom with nothing to do/ so i could rip apart ninja trolls in forums). As far as i can tell
1. Ninja were mecenary spies and assasions.
2. They were considered to be the lowest, most dishonorable group of people in feudal japan. And for good reason. Stabbing people in the back/killing people in there sleep/killing women and children if told to do so/espionage in general was considered to be dishonorable.
3. Traditional ninjitsu is an assasionation art, not a martial art.
4. Ninjitsu is remarably similar to the Navy SEAL training. Unarmed and armed combat is incorperated into the training, but a majority of the training revolves around avoiding confrontation and detection.

To answer your questions..no, ninjitsu is not a true martial art. It shouldn't even be considered one. And no, there was no honor in ninjitsu. All of the duties that a ninja would preform were considered to be dishonorable. If you ever meet someone who says they know ninjitsu, don't believe them. As far as i can tell, true ninjitsu dissappeared a long time ago. It got started up again in the 1980's after the movies.... There are a few people today who try to teach ninjitsu, but 99.99999999999% of the time, they're fakes.

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[Kumdo-Star]

i all-so agree 99% (i like stealth so)

[Hai_hai]

There are a few people today who try to teach ninjitsu, but 99.99999999999% of the time, they're .

That's true, because I take them out. And then, afterwards, a nice Chianti.

[GoldenShinai]

If you want to learn about ninjas, go here- http://www.realultimatepower.net/index4.htm

[kendonewbie]

You have got to be kidding me....

[Shiro7]

So this subject has come up every once in a while with students at the dojo and newer martial arts practitioners. Is ninjitsu a true martial art? I have been told that it is extremely secretive and therefore if I ever do meet a practitioner I probably would not know. But aren't the martial arts guided by the martial way and bushido? Ninjitsu, to my limited knowledge, seems to be about assasination and stealth but also developing the mind and body like other martial arts. However, I cannot recall being taught or reading about assasinations being part of the martial way. If anything it is against it as it is essentially murder and, once again from my limited knowledge, murder without allowing the victim to fight back. This does not seem to follow bushido. Perhaps I am wrong. Any opinions and/or facts to illuminate the subject?

Well as most martial arts are really old and traditional, so some arts have similiarity, or are called in a different name now, but has the same concept as it. I think theres one called Bukikan or something.. well its ninjitsu and stuff, ninja uniforms and all that, teachings in weaponry, swords, shurikens, and living off the wild and stuff. There are other things about ninja history, but thats not what your asking right? Well unless you want specifics i guess... Ninjitsu is basically surviving on your own, well thats what most dojos teach now i suppose, careful though alot of bullshido and mcdojos like to deceive and make profits of the art.. But most martial artists, if you ask about it, they'll just flame you. But I still love ninjas

[NorthernKendoka]

You're thinking of bujinkan taijutsu. I don't practice it but we have a club in my hometown. I personally think it's pretty lame. They had a show at a martial arts expo and me and the rest of the kendo club have been talking about their sword techniques ever since. They try to master a wide range of weapons or as I like to put it; never master a wide range of weapons.

Don't take my word for it this swedish homepage has a bunch of movies showing different techniques. http://www.budogruppen.nu/english_media.shtml. From movie 13 they start using weapons.

[TheChessQueen]

If you want to learn about ninjas, go here- http://www.realultimatepower.net/index4.htm

This is the reason I posted this after reading the thread bashing on that website. But if you want to learn real ninjitsu I feel that you aren't a true martial artist just based on what I have been taught about honor. Assassins just do not follow that code.

[Wes Nazo]

"Exitus acta probat"